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	<title>Comments on: Senior Jerusalem Police Commander Visit the Head of the Eida Chareidis</title>
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		<title>By: rexford</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rexford]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[can ploiderer1 please explain why I am a disgrace to my black hat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can ploiderer1 please explain why I am a disgrace to my black hat.</p>
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		<title>By: saythatagain</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;As anyone who has lived in Israel will tell you, Hareidim must resort to demonstrations to keep the polioe from mutilating the dead.

Frankly, given the choice of believing the media or believing Rav Weiss, SHLIT”A, I’ll take Rav Weiss! &quot;
Did Rav Weiss say they are innocent? no he just asked they be set free.
Anyone that lives in Israel in a charedi 
community is happy to have these people off the streets. they are a mofia. they will resort to violence and nasty things, most chardim can&#039;t stand them but are afraid of speaking out against them becasue those who have had been hurt physically and threats made against thier families. 
Rexford- I could have written what you wrote myself! I have a feeling we live in the same shcuna.
Last year a tzedaka flyer was in my mailbox with Rav elyashiv&#039;s picture and signature. Something seemed funny to me and I asked my neighboor who learns with Rav Elyashiv once a week to check it out. It was a lie!!! He knew nothing of it. I have read tznius proclmations and called the Rebbitzen of one of the signed rabbonim to find out again it&#039;s a lie- he read it and didn&#039;t agree with and didn&#039;t sign it! I could go on and on but I don&#039;t think anyone wants (or is going to) read it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As anyone who has lived in Israel will tell you, Hareidim must resort to demonstrations to keep the polioe from mutilating the dead.</p>
<p>Frankly, given the choice of believing the media or believing Rav Weiss, SHLIT”A, I’ll take Rav Weiss! &#8221;<br />
Did Rav Weiss say they are innocent? no he just asked they be set free.<br />
Anyone that lives in Israel in a charedi<br />
community is happy to have these people off the streets. they are a mofia. they will resort to violence and nasty things, most chardim can&#8217;t stand them but are afraid of speaking out against them becasue those who have had been hurt physically and threats made against thier families.<br />
Rexford- I could have written what you wrote myself! I have a feeling we live in the same shcuna.<br />
Last year a tzedaka flyer was in my mailbox with Rav elyashiv&#8217;s picture and signature. Something seemed funny to me and I asked my neighboor who learns with Rav Elyashiv once a week to check it out. It was a lie!!! He knew nothing of it. I have read tznius proclmations and called the Rebbitzen of one of the signed rabbonim to find out again it&#8217;s a lie- he read it and didn&#8217;t agree with and didn&#8217;t sign it! I could go on and on but I don&#8217;t think anyone wants (or is going to) read it.</p>
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		<title>By: rexford</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rexford]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear ploiderer1 
please explain why i am a disgrace to my black hat. I work in a yeshiva with bochurim and the comments that I weote are told to me over and ovwer again. If you were a little more opened minded you will see that most normal people are beginning to think this way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear ploiderer1<br />
please explain why i am a disgrace to my black hat. I work in a yeshiva with bochurim and the comments that I weote are told to me over and ovwer again. If you were a little more opened minded you will see that most normal people are beginning to think this way.</p>
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		<title>By: Bike</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At the end of the day the VAAD HATZNIUS SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the end of the day the VAAD HATZNIUS SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: yeruchem</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yeruchem]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#17:
Most Poskim (starting with the Ran and Tosfos) are in agreement that &quot;Dina d&#039;malchusa dina&quot; doesn&#039;t apply in Eretz Yisroel. And it doesn&#039;t apply to a malchus shel risha&#039;a.

#9:
Nothing happened to diracheha darchei noam. What it means is that the Torah is &quot;understanding&quot;, and that the mitzvos and specific dinim are laid down in a way that they aren&#039;t too difficult to carry out (as the torah and chazal see fit). But those who transgress the torah are in for serious punishment both in this world and in the next (also as the Torah sees fit). Not a stira. There are also responsibilities on community leaders of maintaining law and order. The rambam and others specify guidelines in these areas. I&#039;m not saying that the manner in which these &quot;law enforcement officials&quot; act are necessarily within these guidelines - that&#039;s for our leaders to decide. But to attack any form of &quot;din&quot; as being opposed to &quot;diracheha...&quot; is dangerous and unlawful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#17:<br />
Most Poskim (starting with the Ran and Tosfos) are in agreement that &#8220;Dina d&#8217;malchusa dina&#8221; doesn&#8217;t apply in Eretz Yisroel. And it doesn&#8217;t apply to a malchus shel risha&#8217;a.</p>
<p>#9:<br />
Nothing happened to diracheha darchei noam. What it means is that the Torah is &#8220;understanding&#8221;, and that the mitzvos and specific dinim are laid down in a way that they aren&#8217;t too difficult to carry out (as the torah and chazal see fit). But those who transgress the torah are in for serious punishment both in this world and in the next (also as the Torah sees fit). Not a stira. There are also responsibilities on community leaders of maintaining law and order. The rambam and others specify guidelines in these areas. I&#8217;m not saying that the manner in which these &#8220;law enforcement officials&#8221; act are necessarily within these guidelines &#8211; that&#8217;s for our leaders to decide. But to attack any form of &#8220;din&#8221; as being opposed to &#8220;diracheha&#8230;&#8221; is dangerous and unlawful.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joseph]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[YeshivaRodefKesef,

The Ran in Nedarim writes that dina dmalchusa dina stems from the fact that the Melech can expel his people from his land. It’s basically a tax of living in the country. Thus, the Ran writes his famous shitah, that since all Jews are entitled to live in Eretz Yisroel, there is no dina dmalchusa there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YeshivaRodefKesef,</p>
<p>The Ran in Nedarim writes that dina dmalchusa dina stems from the fact that the Melech can expel his people from his land. It’s basically a tax of living in the country. Thus, the Ran writes his famous shitah, that since all Jews are entitled to live in Eretz Yisroel, there is no dina dmalchusa there.</p>
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		<title>By: YeshivaRodefKesef</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[YeshivaRodefKesef]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wat about dina dimalchusa bey dina]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wat about dina dimalchusa bey dina</p>
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		<title>By: rexford</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rexford]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is obvious that deepthinker does not live in a charadei town in Israel as he is so misinformed. Trying living in such a place like I do and see what goes on. Your comments are as deep as the shallow end of a swimming pool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is obvious that deepthinker does not live in a charadei town in Israel as he is so misinformed. Trying living in such a place like I do and see what goes on. Your comments are as deep as the shallow end of a swimming pool.</p>
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		<title>By: ploiderer1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ploiderer1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rexford:

You are a disgrace to your black hat. May you wind up with a gray hat! So there!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rexford:</p>
<p>You are a disgrace to your black hat. May you wind up with a gray hat! So there!</p>
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		<title>By: deepthinker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deepthinker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Calm down, you hotheads, and think a little bit.

These reports of &quot;violent&quot; activity&quot; come from secular sources, who hate Hareidim and their values. They are probably gratly exaggerated, and, perhaps fabricated.

The Hareidim in Israel are constantly under attack by a secular government that would like nothing better than to exterminate them, if they could.

Hareidim survive by vigorously defending themselves, and by the constant distractions from Arab attacks on Israel.

As anyone who has lived in Israel will tell you, Hareidim must resort to demonstrations to keep the polioe from mutilating the dead.

Frankly, given the choice of believing the media or believing Rav Weiss, SHLIT&quot;A, I&#039;ll take Rav Weiss!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calm down, you hotheads, and think a little bit.</p>
<p>These reports of &#8220;violent&#8221; activity&#8221; come from secular sources, who hate Hareidim and their values. They are probably gratly exaggerated, and, perhaps fabricated.</p>
<p>The Hareidim in Israel are constantly under attack by a secular government that would like nothing better than to exterminate them, if they could.</p>
<p>Hareidim survive by vigorously defending themselves, and by the constant distractions from Arab attacks on Israel.</p>
<p>As anyone who has lived in Israel will tell you, Hareidim must resort to demonstrations to keep the polioe from mutilating the dead.</p>
<p>Frankly, given the choice of believing the media or believing Rav Weiss, SHLIT&#8221;A, I&#8217;ll take Rav Weiss!</p>
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