Comments on: Deri for Mayor of Jerusalem? Perhaps….

By: lastword

lastword — Sun, 31 Aug 2008 06:38:29 +0000

@ #8 — is his CD online? Maybe others would watch it too.

By: Bike

Bike — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:24:34 +0000

Very intresting article indeed

By: jerusalemite

jerusalemite — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:24:42 +0000

Hmm, something’s not right here. I was in har nof when Deri was taken to prison and I haven’t been there in 8 years. His conviction was therefore certainly more than 6 years ago. Perhaps you meant his release?

By: iib001

iib001 — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:14:28 +0000

#2
On point and right!

By: Bais Yaakov

Bais Yaakov — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:30:57 +0000

It’s about time a sefadi delegate got up there-Hashem Yeracheim-do you know how much this person went through-I sat down for 2 hours to watch his CD-of his story-SCARY SCARY-Every Rav was there including Rav Ovadia Yosef, Harav Kaduri ztl
Rachmanus on this man (aliyttle)

By: Itzik_s

Itzik_s — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:03:27 +0000

BS”D

Whatever the circumstances of his conviction and sentencing, the fact is that Aryeh Deri no longer has any real constituency and his entering the mayoral race would only ruin it for Porush. If he wants to enter politics again, kol hakavod, but let it be for an office that is not contested by another ben Torah so as not to divide the Torah vote and contribute to the victory of bnei bli yaal in Ir Hakodesh Yerushalayim.

If he were to get the record expunged now and begin getting himself reestablished in the public eye in time for the Knesset race, for instance, he would accomplish more for himself and be able to build a constituency again.

By: mikey72

mikey72 — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:37:59 +0000

you call him a wheeler-dealer?!!!this kind of statement should be left for the ignoramuses in the comment section,like #2.

By: mbachur

mbachur — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:37:29 +0000

i remember when R Deri was let out of prison and that he was still very close with Chacham Ovadia I think he’s considered a gadol (even if yeshiva world doesn’t)

By: akuperma

akuperma — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:55:35 +0000

to #2: in most countries, a “bribe” requires doing something you wouldn’t normally do in return for money. You need a “quid pro quo” (a something for a something). They proved he diverted money to help frum causes (he needed to be bribed to do that?), and that he received money from someone while in office who had been assisting him financially before he was in politics (similar to a traditional Zevulon-Yissicar relationship, or a Roman patron-client relationship, but not a bribe). Such prosecutions in Israel are almost always politically motivated, facilitated by a legal system that is responsible to no one (judges basically pick their sucessors, and there are no juries). His real crimes were political, and if he was mayor of Jerusalem he would be one election away from running for Prime Minister, which would be a serious challenge to the zionist movement, perhaps as serious as when Dr. De Haan almost arranged for a hareidi-Arab alliance, and we know what happened next.

By: akuperma

akuperma — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:40:33 +0000

While the “crimes” he was convicted of wouldn’t be considered criminal in most other countries, the “crime” that led to his prosecution (being an uppity frum Sefardi, willing to discuss peace with Arabs, and build a political machine that challenges the hiloni elite control of Eretz Yisrael) would cause an outcry among the secular parties. If one remembers what happened to the last mayor of Jerusalem, you can understand their fear. The hiloni can tolerate hareidim who want to help their own people in return for tolerating the hiloni agenda – they can’t tolerate a hareidi who threatens their control of Eretz Yisrael.