Comments on: Rabbi Cherlow Insists Human Rights Means Har HaBayis Access

By: Milhouse

Milhouse — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 04:41:18 +0000

If you’re so concerned about the kedusha of Har Habayis, then don’t allow the Arabs to go there. They are definitely tomei. If the Arabs are allowed there, then Jews must be allowed too; no Jew is more tomei than them.

By: Flatbush Bubby

Flatbush Bubby — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 01:22:31 +0000

My son learns in Israel not my grandson. I am not that old yet.

My point is just because I am in the good old U.S.A. doesn’t mean I am totally ignorant on what goes on in Israel. Anyone that ascends Har Habayis is violating directives given by greater men than you or I and are putting Israeli lives in jeopardy. They enrage and provoke unnecessarily the Arabs.

By: u33073

u33073 — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:13:30 +0000

Israeli Yid, the next time you are in the Old City of Yerushalayim please go to the Ateret Cohanim Yeshiva. Right outside of the Bais Medrash there are copies of 2 Kol Korays hanging on a board. The first one was signed by HaRav Avrohom Yitzchok HaCohen Kook ZT”L prohibiting us from ascending to Har HaBayis. The second was dated just after the 6 Day War. It is signed by about 40 Rabbonim across the spectrum, from Rav Tzvi Yehuda Kook, Rav Zolty, the chief Rabbis to the well known Charedi Roshei Yeshiva and Rabbonim of the time. The Kol Korei was reminding us that even though the RBS”O gave us physical access to Har Habayis through open miracles; nevertheless we are still PROHIBITED from ascending.
In the 742 since the Ramban came to Yerushalayim, the unanimous opinion of the Poskim have been that it is prohibited from ascend even though there are places that definitely does not have the kedusha of the Beis HaMikdash.
In fact, the person who almost single handily supported the community in Yerushalayim in the late 1800s was Sir Moshe Montifore Z”L. When he went up to Har HaBayis in a sedan chair carried by Arabs, Rav Shmuel Salant ZT”L basically put his benefactor in Cherem!
No, Rabbi Rabinowitz and Rabbi Cherlow are tremendous talmidei chachomim and Manhigim of their communities, but are they greater than over 700 years of Gedolei Olom?
In the 742 since the Ramban came to Yerushalayim, the unanimous opion of the Poskim have been that it is prohibited from acsend even though there are places that definately does not have the kedusha of the Beis HaMikdash.
In fact, the person who almost single handly supported the community in Yerushalayim in the late 1800s was Sir Moshe Montifore Z”L. When he went up to Har HaBayis in a sedan chair carried by Arabs, Rav Shmuel Salant ZT”L basically put his benefactor in Cherem!
No, Rabbi Rabinowitz and Rabbi Cherlow are tremendous talmidei chachomim and Manhigim of their communities, but are they greater than over 700 years of Gedolei Olom?

By: benuri

benuri — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:48:45 +0000

This is an issue of Nationalism and Zionism. The gdolim of previous generations also knew that there are places where access is permitted. They all refrained from going there. today’s Rabbonim are smarter.
BTW al pi Halacha nobody is allowed on Har Habayis including bnei Noach

By: Flatbush Bubby

Flatbush Bubby — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:50:44 +0000

Uh IsraeliYid, my son is learning now in Israel. Rabbi Moshe Feinstein held the exact opposite along with Rav Elyashiv two individuals that one wouldn’t sneeze at.