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		<title>By: Jothar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jothar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 03:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Chazon Ish ZT&quot;L, Rav Shach ZT&quot;L, and many other gedolim of yore felt the racism against sephardim was intolerable. They know better than us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Chazon Ish ZT&#8221;L, Rav Shach ZT&#8221;L, and many other gedolim of yore felt the racism against sephardim was intolerable. They know better than us.</p>
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		<title>By: RG</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 15:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Entrances to the Beis Yaakov building:

The original Beis Yaakov building, since its inception, has always has two gate entrances and two front doors. One entrance is down the hill, the other is on the higher part of the hill in this hilly town. Many schools have several entrances. The high school was inside this building, in the top floor, along with the elementary school until 2004, whereupon the high school got its own building. The entrance normally used for the high school was the uphill entrance, which was nearer to the top floor, where the high school was. When the high school moved, the top floor was left totally empty. It was a reasonable idea to use this empty, unused space for the new Chassidi school and its different philosophy and community of girls whose roots are from Yemen, Morocco, Iraq, Persia, Tunisia, Egypt, India, Hungary, Poland, Germany, etc. So they use the old high school entrance. So what.

Please question the media and the courts. Do not let them dupe you. I live in Emanuel. Come visit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Entrances to the Beis Yaakov building:</p>
<p>The original Beis Yaakov building, since its inception, has always has two gate entrances and two front doors. One entrance is down the hill, the other is on the higher part of the hill in this hilly town. Many schools have several entrances. The high school was inside this building, in the top floor, along with the elementary school until 2004, whereupon the high school got its own building. The entrance normally used for the high school was the uphill entrance, which was nearer to the top floor, where the high school was. When the high school moved, the top floor was left totally empty. It was a reasonable idea to use this empty, unused space for the new Chassidi school and its different philosophy and community of girls whose roots are from Yemen, Morocco, Iraq, Persia, Tunisia, Egypt, India, Hungary, Poland, Germany, etc. So they use the old high school entrance. So what.</p>
<p>Please question the media and the courts. Do not let them dupe you. I live in Emanuel. Come visit.</p>
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		<title>By: mw13</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#18 - &quot;this goes against the basics of Judaism.&quot;
Except that the Gedolim, who know the &quot;basics of Judasim&quot; far better than we do, clearly disagree with you.

#19 - &quot;Is it, or is it not true that there are separate entrances for ashkenazim and for sephardim?&quot;
Living in America, I do not know what is happening in Israel.  However, the Israeli media doesn&#039;t exactly have a clean record when it comes to anti-religious bias...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#18 &#8211; &#8220;this goes against the basics of Judaism.&#8221;<br />
Except that the Gedolim, who know the &#8220;basics of Judasim&#8221; far better than we do, clearly disagree with you.</p>
<p>#19 &#8211; &#8220;Is it, or is it not true that there are separate entrances for ashkenazim and for sephardim?&#8221;<br />
Living in America, I do not know what is happening in Israel.  However, the Israeli media doesn&#8217;t exactly have a clean record when it comes to anti-religious bias&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RG</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To sayitlikeitis,

I appreciate your passion. Please turn some of that energy onto questioning the media. What do you think of the following interaction I had with a so called journalist two years ago?

Me: How can you say this is an ethnic division when you see for yourself Sephardi girls here? The difference is that is hashkafa!
Reporter: I know it is racist because the Chassidi school opened in the same building! (Triumphant sneer)
Me: But the Chabad school also opened up in this building before they got their own building!
Reporter: (blushed, blinked rapidly, eyes darted from side to side), &quot;I have work to do!&quot; and she walked away quickly.

Please use your energy to question the media. Thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To sayitlikeitis,</p>
<p>I appreciate your passion. Please turn some of that energy onto questioning the media. What do you think of the following interaction I had with a so called journalist two years ago?</p>
<p>Me: How can you say this is an ethnic division when you see for yourself Sephardi girls here? The difference is that is hashkafa!<br />
Reporter: I know it is racist because the Chassidi school opened in the same building! (Triumphant sneer)<br />
Me: But the Chabad school also opened up in this building before they got their own building!<br />
Reporter: (blushed, blinked rapidly, eyes darted from side to side), &#8220;I have work to do!&#8221; and she walked away quickly.</p>
<p>Please use your energy to question the media. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: RG</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To skazm,

I agree. That is why Emanuel is a good place to live. I live here. Please see my comments above.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To skazm,</p>
<p>I agree. That is why Emanuel is a good place to live. I live here. Please see my comments above.</p>
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		<title>By: RG</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To # 20,

Please contact HaRav HaGaon Rav Ba&#039;adani with your question. See comment #24.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To # 20,</p>
<p>Please contact HaRav HaGaon Rav Ba&#8217;adani with your question. See comment #24.</p>
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		<title>By: RG</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To # 13

You may contact One of the Gedolei HaDor, HaRav HaGaon Rav Ba&#039;adani. You can look in a phone book under Rabbanim in the country-wide section, and ask him why he instructed the Chassidim of Emanuel to open a new school, in which attend girls who have their roots in the following countries: Iraq, Persia, Morocco, Kurdistan, Yemen, India, Egypt, The Old Yishuv here in Israel, Tunisia, Poland, Hungary, Russia, Germany.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To # 13</p>
<p>You may contact One of the Gedolei HaDor, HaRav HaGaon Rav Ba&#8217;adani. You can look in a phone book under Rabbanim in the country-wide section, and ask him why he instructed the Chassidim of Emanuel to open a new school, in which attend girls who have their roots in the following countries: Iraq, Persia, Morocco, Kurdistan, Yemen, India, Egypt, The Old Yishuv here in Israel, Tunisia, Poland, Hungary, Russia, Germany.</p>
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		<title>By: RG</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To # 19

&quot;The girls who attend the Beis Yacov Chasidi in Emanuel have their roots in the following countries: Iraq, Persia, Morocco, Kurdistan, Yemen, India, Egypt, The Old Yishuv here in Israel, Tunisia, Poland, Hungary, Russia, Germany. What makes this school different is its standards.&quot;

There are girls whose roots are Sephardi, Ashkenazi, blended, nonJewish, etc, etc etc in ALL the schools in Emanuel.

Media lies happen. Question the cycle. Do not be a party to it by believing it. Come visit for yourself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To # 19</p>
<p>&#8220;The girls who attend the Beis Yacov Chasidi in Emanuel have their roots in the following countries: Iraq, Persia, Morocco, Kurdistan, Yemen, India, Egypt, The Old Yishuv here in Israel, Tunisia, Poland, Hungary, Russia, Germany. What makes this school different is its standards.&#8221;</p>
<p>There are girls whose roots are Sephardi, Ashkenazi, blended, nonJewish, etc, etc etc in ALL the schools in Emanuel.</p>
<p>Media lies happen. Question the cycle. Do not be a party to it by believing it. Come visit for yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: RG</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here I am again.

Thanks to the above for pasting my comment to this discussion.

What this story really is about is media provocation and misinformation, a public who does not scrutinize its journalists enough, and inappropriate judiciary activism.

Stop the cycle of lies. Question the media. Question the court system. 

You might believe that being the victim of media slander and lies cannot happen to you. But as long as it is happening to anybody, it is affecting you too. The media is sneering at the Chassidic Jews of Emanuel – and if you believe the media, they have duped you too. 

I live in Emanuel. Come visit and see for yourself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here I am again.</p>
<p>Thanks to the above for pasting my comment to this discussion.</p>
<p>What this story really is about is media provocation and misinformation, a public who does not scrutinize its journalists enough, and inappropriate judiciary activism.</p>
<p>Stop the cycle of lies. Question the media. Question the court system. </p>
<p>You might believe that being the victim of media slander and lies cannot happen to you. But as long as it is happening to anybody, it is affecting you too. The media is sneering at the Chassidic Jews of Emanuel – and if you believe the media, they have duped you too. </p>
<p>I live in Emanuel. Come visit and see for yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Yerushaleim</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 23:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why in the world are you guys still arguing about the righteousness of the courts after #12 ‘s clarification????

I live in Emanuel

You can visit the place for yourself and see girls from Sepharadi and Ashkenazi and blended families in the Beis Yaakov Chasidi.

I cannot believe how far these lies have gone. I am re-posting what I have said in previous articles on this topic.

The girls who attend the Beis Yacov Chasidi in Emanuel have their roots in the following countries: Iraq, Persia, Morocco, Kurdistan, Yemen, India, Egypt, The Old Yishuv here in Israel, Tunisia, Poland, Hungary, Russia, Germany. What makes this school different is its standards, in particular standards concerning tznius (length and tightness of dress), no makeup, no MP3s, exposure to media, etc. The parents who objected to the current standards of the city Beis Yakov either bussed their girls to Bnei Brak or tried to start another school. I have lived in Emanuel for eleven years, have six kids who have been and are still attending schools here. When we first came, there were three schools for boys and one for girls – the only school for girls was the Beis Yacov, which already had within in a split off Chabad School, which soon after moved to its own building. The original Beis Yacov was largely comprised of Chassidic families. The three boy’s schools were then and continue to be Chabad, Chassidic, and Sephardic. “Chassidic” does not mean “Ashkenazic”. Members of both communities marry each other.

The demographics here changed. Chassidim were moving out, and the flavor the original Beis Yacov was becoming more modern. The formation of the Beis Yacov Chasidi was an effort by members of the original Chassidic population here to re-create the kind of Beis Yacov that they had a decade ago. It was a stricter school – in terms of dress, exposure to media, even to some aspects of Haredi culture that they feel is not for them as in Haredi “rock music”, choice of careers, etc – and certainly NOT of an “Ashkenazic” school! This was after a couple of years of outreach programs meant to encourage people to move the original Beis Yacov back towards its original narrower interpretation of the Israeli Haredi lifestyle. This outreach did not succeed, to the Chassidim formed their own school – in their minds, returning to the original school’s former style.

One of the original founders of the Beis Yacov Chasidi, which was founded in 2007, was Rav Ba’adani, a gadol (very well respected Rabbinical authority) who happens to be Sephardic. Additionally, there were two families who had daughters in both the original Beis Yacov and the Beis Yacov Chasidi at the very same time, proving yet again that this was not an ethnic division. This is a dynamic, fluid society. There were girls who switched back to the original school and those who switched to the Chasidi school the following year. There is an excellent Chabad school, the original Beis Yaakov, plus dati leumi and charedi dati leumi (chardal) schools in other towns in the Shomron that offer excellent alternatives, and the new Beis Rachel and Leah, run by a wonderful principal and staff, offer yet another healthy alternative for students here.

I live in Emanuel. I love the variety here, some of which must be preserved in diverse educational institutions. Variety has been instrumental in the survival of the Jewish people, both nationally and individually.

Because of its small size, Emanuel has been a nice place for people to get to know members of different kinds of communities more easily than in a large city perhaps. That makes this horrendous media fabrication all that more ironic – and painful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why in the world are you guys still arguing about the righteousness of the courts after #12 ‘s clarification????</p>
<p>I live in Emanuel</p>
<p>You can visit the place for yourself and see girls from Sepharadi and Ashkenazi and blended families in the Beis Yaakov Chasidi.</p>
<p>I cannot believe how far these lies have gone. I am re-posting what I have said in previous articles on this topic.</p>
<p>The girls who attend the Beis Yacov Chasidi in Emanuel have their roots in the following countries: Iraq, Persia, Morocco, Kurdistan, Yemen, India, Egypt, The Old Yishuv here in Israel, Tunisia, Poland, Hungary, Russia, Germany. What makes this school different is its standards, in particular standards concerning tznius (length and tightness of dress), no makeup, no MP3s, exposure to media, etc. The parents who objected to the current standards of the city Beis Yakov either bussed their girls to Bnei Brak or tried to start another school. I have lived in Emanuel for eleven years, have six kids who have been and are still attending schools here. When we first came, there were three schools for boys and one for girls – the only school for girls was the Beis Yacov, which already had within in a split off Chabad School, which soon after moved to its own building. The original Beis Yacov was largely comprised of Chassidic families. The three boy’s schools were then and continue to be Chabad, Chassidic, and Sephardic. “Chassidic” does not mean “Ashkenazic”. Members of both communities marry each other.</p>
<p>The demographics here changed. Chassidim were moving out, and the flavor the original Beis Yacov was becoming more modern. The formation of the Beis Yacov Chasidi was an effort by members of the original Chassidic population here to re-create the kind of Beis Yacov that they had a decade ago. It was a stricter school – in terms of dress, exposure to media, even to some aspects of Haredi culture that they feel is not for them as in Haredi “rock music”, choice of careers, etc – and certainly NOT of an “Ashkenazic” school! This was after a couple of years of outreach programs meant to encourage people to move the original Beis Yacov back towards its original narrower interpretation of the Israeli Haredi lifestyle. This outreach did not succeed, to the Chassidim formed their own school – in their minds, returning to the original school’s former style.</p>
<p>One of the original founders of the Beis Yacov Chasidi, which was founded in 2007, was Rav Ba’adani, a gadol (very well respected Rabbinical authority) who happens to be Sephardic. Additionally, there were two families who had daughters in both the original Beis Yacov and the Beis Yacov Chasidi at the very same time, proving yet again that this was not an ethnic division. This is a dynamic, fluid society. There were girls who switched back to the original school and those who switched to the Chasidi school the following year. There is an excellent Chabad school, the original Beis Yaakov, plus dati leumi and charedi dati leumi (chardal) schools in other towns in the Shomron that offer excellent alternatives, and the new Beis Rachel and Leah, run by a wonderful principal and staff, offer yet another healthy alternative for students here.</p>
<p>I live in Emanuel. I love the variety here, some of which must be preserved in diverse educational institutions. Variety has been instrumental in the survival of the Jewish people, both nationally and individually.</p>
<p>Because of its small size, Emanuel has been a nice place for people to get to know members of different kinds of communities more easily than in a large city perhaps. That makes this horrendous media fabrication all that more ironic – and painful.</p>
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