Comments on: AUDIO: Self-Hating Jewish Radio-Host Won’t Retract Statements That Charedim Are ‘Leeches & Worms’

By: shimen

shimen — Wed, 21 Apr 2010 23:55:17 +0000

he may have been born a yid but its possible these kind dont have a yiddishe neshome, literally speaking see M’A simen 48 and shloh hakodesh on the bracha ‘shelo asani goy’…

By: Mirm32

Mirm32 — Wed, 21 Apr 2010 21:53:15 +0000

The truth is here to come and see.
Nothing is black and white, except for maybe the dress!
There are chareidim that serve in the army. I believe over 1,000 enlisted last year! I am sure they are listening to HaRav SHteinman shlita who said they should serve if they are not learning. Better to serve than to lie – albeit in a way they can halachically. And the more chareidim that serve, the more the army WILL acquiece to their needs – it will have to!
There are chareidim who stand, and some who sit. Some say tehillim, some don’t. I try to learn from all aspects of what each approach can teach. The Niturei Karta teach us not to forget how the Israeili government took advantage of holy Neshamos. The Dati Le’umi teach us to revere the fact that we have part of Eretz Yisrael to come to, to work, to live on. We must appreciate all the sacrifices made to be able to live on this land, and feel saddened that it is not totally al pi halachah yet! I think we can do this, without being so offended by the others’ reactions. Then we can learn and come together – “Bekomim alai mereim, tishmana oznai!” We can learn from the fact that this chiloni is not impressed. Learn and be better! And we can learn from the concept of Hakoras Hatov, and still follow our Gedolim simultaineously! Only if we do NOT FALL INTO all or nothing thinking, commonly known as black and white thinking
Kol Tuv to ALL AM YISRAEL!

By: koma

koma — Wed, 21 Apr 2010 21:17:31 +0000

There are weeds in our garden, and the problem is wider than just a few NK crazies. The Jerusalem edah has not sufficiently or successfully distanced themselves from those who they term a few wayward youths. There were far more than a few youths at various protests where derech eretz was notably absent. Those that burn garbage and close the streets are plain gazlanim, and posul l’ledus. Those that had to burn a flag davka in the chatzer of the Kadosh Rav Kahaneman, are likely ain laham chelek lolam haba. Beyond the Hillul Hashem, these imposters and their enablers deny the broader community a voice in the public square. Yes, there are worms and slugs, and they must be trod upon to keep the place clean.

By: YonasonW

YonasonW — Wed, 21 Apr 2010 20:07:11 +0000

Your Sister #16 – I believe the world depends upon supporting those who learn. I also think this holy principle has been turned into a mockery by huge numbers of people who claim subsidies for learning when they are clearly scamming the system . . . and with the support of the Chareidishe political parties (now there’s an oxymoron if you stop to think about it)

I defy anyone out there to point to anything in Shas that supports the mass subsidies the Chareidem claim of right in Israel. We are supposed to support the elite – the budding Talmidei Chachamim – not entire hoshkafas

(Is this you, Lil JB?)

By: AinOhdMilvado

AinOhdMilvado — Wed, 21 Apr 2010 19:24:29 +0000

#13 – I would add that I don’t like that he paints all “chareidim” with the same brush.
I don’t even think it is correct to characterize a Jew that hates another Jew as “chareidi”.
Was R’ Aryeh Levin ztz”l “chareidi”, is R’ Grossman shlit”a (from migdal ha’Emek”) “chareidi”? Are the frum young men in Nachal Chareidi who put their lives on the line to defend Jewish life in Eretz Yisrael, chareidim??? Do any of these great men belong in the same category with those that desecrate memorials to Jews killed in terror attacks (some of whom were chareidim themselves)??? – or those who burn garbage in the streets of Yerushalayim??? – or those who spray bleach on the clothing of those THEY decide are not adequately tzniusdik?
The medina has MUCH that is VERY wrong with it. The right approach would be to work to fix what is broken, not to burn it down and help our yishmaeli enemies.
I would have to agree with #10. Let the haters either leave, or build isolated communities that use NONE of the infrastructure (electricity, water, sewers, etc.) of the “state”. Otherwise they are hypocrites. They might also want to take a moment to consider what would become of them if the IDF was not there. Their sinas Yisrael is not a mida that will grant them Divine protection.

By: hereorthere

hereorthere — Wed, 21 Apr 2010 19:21:14 +0000

Many if not most settlers are cheredim.

Also the seculars who founded the state had the same contempt back then for the religious as they do now so this stuff about what charedim do that is supposedly so ‘wrong’ is hypocritical for them to be whining about.

It’s just excuses.

By: Your Sister

Your Sister — Wed, 21 Apr 2010 19:12:40 +0000

YonasonW, you don’t think the Chareidim deserve to be supported too?

By: Avraham

Avraham — Wed, 21 Apr 2010 19:09:08 +0000

As an employee of the Israel Broadcasting Authority (a government agency), Mr. Gazit has absolutely no right to voice his bigoted opinions on the public airwaves. Because this is a domestic issue within Israel, we Americans should not get involved.

However, if this were to happen in the U.S., it would rightfully be condemned and the offender would be fired. Free speech does not provide a license to publicly spew hate of religious or ethnic groups, based on supposed transgressions of some of their members.

By: Shlomo 2

Shlomo 2 — Wed, 21 Apr 2010 18:56:17 +0000

The problem is not that Charedim don’t stand for the siren.

No, the problem is that they don’t do ANYTHING to honor and respect the fallen. If they would at least say Tehillim, as their own sign of respect, then no one would criticize them.

By: BKR

BKR — Wed, 21 Apr 2010 18:23:33 +0000

I don’t like the fact the he equalizes “settlers and chareidim”. Settlers support the country, they work, pay taxes and most important, they send their children to the army, unlike the chareidm.