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	<title>Comments on: Statement from the Rabbinical Council of California on Doheny Meats</title>
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		<title>By: Do not Trust RCC</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Do not Trust RCC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Apr 2013 09:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shame on you RCC....Shame on you RCC.....Shame on you RCC.....Shame on you RCC....Shame on you RCC....Shame on you RCC......Shame on you RCC.....Shame on you RCC.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame on you RCC&#8230;.Shame on you RCC&#8230;..Shame on you RCC&#8230;..Shame on you RCC&#8230;.Shame on you RCC&#8230;.Shame on you RCC&#8230;&#8230;Shame on you RCC&#8230;..Shame on you RCC&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Not getting involved</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Not getting involved]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2013 15:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To Sefardi Tahor:
Thanx for the kind words. Nu vaz zucks dee ouf de eirshter shtikel fun meir?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Sefardi Tahor:<br />
Thanx for the kind words. Nu vaz zucks dee ouf de eirshter shtikel fun meir?</p>
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		<title>By: spectrum</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spectrum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not getting involved:
So don&#039;t.
You don&#039;t seem to know the story correctly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not getting involved:<br />
So don&#8217;t.<br />
You don&#8217;t seem to know the story correctly.</p>
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		<title>By: Gadolhadorah</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gadolhadorah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Mar 2013 20:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To No. 12

Who mentioned Rav Belsky or any other rav by name??? We were talking about the RCC as a hashgacha agency and its institutional failure to follow best practices, a point made by several chashuve rabbonim since eruv yom tov when this whole sordid affair became public.  For some yidden, even the thought of having served their families treifus for the sedorim may be upsetting so its not a joke.  The comment about Rav Belsky being critically ill was made by some other poster...I have no clue as to his health.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To No. 12</p>
<p>Who mentioned Rav Belsky or any other rav by name??? We were talking about the RCC as a hashgacha agency and its institutional failure to follow best practices, a point made by several chashuve rabbonim since eruv yom tov when this whole sordid affair became public.  For some yidden, even the thought of having served their families treifus for the sedorim may be upsetting so its not a joke.  The comment about Rav Belsky being critically ill was made by some other poster&#8230;I have no clue as to his health.</p>
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		<title>By: LAtutzach27</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LAtutzach27]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Mar 2013 19:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[eric55 says:&quot;if you had meat from 2:59 would you actually give it to your family to eat?! i think not, thats why its a weird psak to give....&quot;

who are you to say that it is a &quot;weird psak&quot;,you think they just made it up??!! and yes i would eat meat from 2:59 because i have emunas chachomim!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eric55 says:&#8221;if you had meat from 2:59 would you actually give it to your family to eat?! i think not, thats why its a weird psak to give&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>who are you to say that it is a &#8220;weird psak&#8221;,you think they just made it up??!! and yes i would eat meat from 2:59 because i have emunas chachomim!</p>
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		<title>By: sefardi tahor</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sefardi tahor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Mar 2013 18:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not getting involved:
no need for your long megilas. you should have just posted 

&quot;I AM A COMPLETE AM  HA&#039;ARAETZ AND KNOWS NOTHING IN REGARDS TO HALACHA, GEMARA, RESHONIM AND THE SORT. BUT NEVERTHELESS I WILL OPEN MY LITTLE MOUTH AGAINTS RABBONIM&quot;

poison? halacha? man, you need help....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not getting involved:<br />
no need for your long megilas. you should have just posted </p>
<p>&#8220;I AM A COMPLETE AM  HA&#8217;ARAETZ AND KNOWS NOTHING IN REGARDS TO HALACHA, GEMARA, RESHONIM AND THE SORT. BUT NEVERTHELESS I WILL OPEN MY LITTLE MOUTH AGAINTS RABBONIM&#8221;</p>
<p>poison? halacha? man, you need help&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: YW Moderator-42</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[YW Moderator-42]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Mar 2013 18:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t like that moshul. If Rov mattirs it then it is no longer poison - all 10 pieces of meat are considered kosher. That is the power of the Torah and Rabbanim to change metzius, with regular poison you can&#039;t do that. 
Rav Belsky doesn&#039;t need my haskama nor anybody else&#039;s here. But if you need an explanation, here it goes. According to the facts I have read, the mashgiach neglected his job 2 or 3 times and during those times they were able to possibly switch some meat. So it sounds to me like a very big rov that anything bought before 3pm is Kosher.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t like that moshul. If Rov mattirs it then it is no longer poison &#8211; all 10 pieces of meat are considered kosher. That is the power of the Torah and Rabbanim to change metzius, with regular poison you can&#8217;t do that.<br />
Rav Belsky doesn&#8217;t need my haskama nor anybody else&#8217;s here. But if you need an explanation, here it goes. According to the facts I have read, the mashgiach neglected his job 2 or 3 times and during those times they were able to possibly switch some meat. So it sounds to me like a very big rov that anything bought before 3pm is Kosher.</p>
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		<title>By: some people are crazy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[some people are crazy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Mar 2013 18:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[bgzunt you should be gzunt but you don&#039;t have a clue about kashrus or this situation at all it seems. The RCC did not just shrug off responsibility, nor did it make light of the investigation. they thouroughly investigated every allegation .they specifically wrote in their statement just some of the many ways they reacted to the allegations- go read it before you say shame on them! shame on you! They have the backing and guidance of many very great rabanim.

not getting involved- your comparison makes absolutely no sense. the halacha of rov that was applied here is a halacha from the gemara, not some random people making some things up. anyone who follows it is not gullible, they are having emunas chachamim and following what our rabanim told us!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bgzunt you should be gzunt but you don&#8217;t have a clue about kashrus or this situation at all it seems. The RCC did not just shrug off responsibility, nor did it make light of the investigation. they thouroughly investigated every allegation .they specifically wrote in their statement just some of the many ways they reacted to the allegations- go read it before you say shame on them! shame on you! They have the backing and guidance of many very great rabanim.</p>
<p>not getting involved- your comparison makes absolutely no sense. the halacha of rov that was applied here is a halacha from the gemara, not some random people making some things up. anyone who follows it is not gullible, they are having emunas chachamim and following what our rabanim told us!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Not getting involved</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Not getting involved]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Mar 2013 16:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Same old same old! Of course, its NEVER EVER the Kashrus agency&#039;s fault! They are all Tzaddikim Gemurim, Kidoshem Vitehorim! They are all Lishem Shomayim mamesh! They are all competent &amp; well trained! Its NEVER about the money $$$ or nepotism! How dare you criticize a Kashrus Organization!
Ok, you can put your heads back in the sand!
As far as eating the meat that was sold at 2:59, there is a famous Mashal. Someone gets stranded in the desert. He finaly meets someone who has water. He is dehydraded &amp; he see&#039;s 10 paper cups filled with water. The fellow tells him, 9 cups are pure &amp; clean but 1 has a deadly poison in it that if you drink it, you will die instantly! He thinks to himself, well, &quot;rov&quot; (9 are good) are ok, so what&#039;s the problem! Would anyone say that??? Would any sane person take such a chance??? Yet, when it comes to Kashrus, I see you gullible people are suddenly so brave! As long as you keep giving these Kashrus Organizations 2nd chances, these CRIMES will continue!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same old same old! Of course, its NEVER EVER the Kashrus agency&#8217;s fault! They are all Tzaddikim Gemurim, Kidoshem Vitehorim! They are all Lishem Shomayim mamesh! They are all competent &amp; well trained! Its NEVER about the money $$$ or nepotism! How dare you criticize a Kashrus Organization!<br />
Ok, you can put your heads back in the sand!<br />
As far as eating the meat that was sold at 2:59, there is a famous Mashal. Someone gets stranded in the desert. He finaly meets someone who has water. He is dehydraded &amp; he see&#8217;s 10 paper cups filled with water. The fellow tells him, 9 cups are pure &amp; clean but 1 has a deadly poison in it that if you drink it, you will die instantly! He thinks to himself, well, &#8220;rov&#8221; (9 are good) are ok, so what&#8217;s the problem! Would anyone say that??? Would any sane person take such a chance??? Yet, when it comes to Kashrus, I see you gullible people are suddenly so brave! As long as you keep giving these Kashrus Organizations 2nd chances, these CRIMES will continue!</p>
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		<title>By: eric55</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eric55]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Mar 2013 16:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With all that said, that the meat from 2:59 is kosher because of Rov or what ever, if you had meat from 2:59 would you actually give it to your family to eat?! i think not, thats why its a weird psak to give, unless there is something concrete that we dont know]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all that said, that the meat from 2:59 is kosher because of Rov or what ever, if you had meat from 2:59 would you actually give it to your family to eat?! i think not, thats why its a weird psak to give, unless there is something concrete that we dont know</p>
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