Comments on: Glenmorangie, Scotland’s Favorite Single Malt, Announces OU Kosher Certification

By: u33073

u33073 — Wed, 09 Jun 2010 18:28:51 +0000

Yaakov Doe
Please dont say Rav Moshe’s psak. I think it is much more approprite to call it a Heter like Joshie did.
I believe that Rav Moshe wrote in the tshuva that he would drink it if offered so it would not be “mechi k’yura”. Does not sould like he said it was mutar lchatchila.

By: sabra

sabra — Wed, 09 Jun 2010 15:00:20 +0000

what about pesach? do the owners sell thier chometz?

By: hereorthere

hereorthere — Wed, 09 Jun 2010 03:15:08 +0000

Oh Heiniken, the one called “Special Dark”, is pretty good as well.

By: hereorthere

hereorthere — Wed, 09 Jun 2010 03:14:14 +0000

I do not think any alcohol tastes good unless it is very sweet and of course that is almost never the case especially with whiskys and vodkas (all the hard liquer).

I’ll just stick with Malaga wine (which sometimes I ad my own sugar, to).

By: mark levin

mark levin — Tue, 08 Jun 2010 23:51:43 +0000

3, they maintain many items are kosher, alas…..

By: bigwheel

bigwheel — Tue, 08 Jun 2010 22:58:47 +0000

Although this IS great news, it is important to note that the TOMINTOUL collection are also certified by the OU, that includes the 10 Year, 16 Year, Peaty Tang, & the Reserve 31 Year old, they are GREAT Whiskeys, ENJOY!!!

By: DrYidd

DrYidd — Tue, 08 Jun 2010 22:58:14 +0000

hello99 – You are absolutely not correct. some glenmorangie’s use port, madera, or sherry casks. BUT the basic 10 year old and i suspect the other are NOT made in wine casks.

yaacov doe, I doubt the OU will rely on RMF ztl on this issue; they have not to date. if you go to their restaurants, they allow multiple single malts that do not ADVERTISE wine casks on their labels. Now they are going a step further and checking/certifying this brand.

By: Joshie

Joshie — Tue, 08 Jun 2010 22:34:07 +0000

1. Glenmorangie do NOT use sherry casks across their whole range as opposed to Macallan for example who do. Every single Macallan bottling is oloroso-sherry based. Glenmorangie original is not sherry or wine based. Probably hence the Hechsher.

2. There is a major misconception out there that only whisky which is sherry based is “potentially” a problem. Potentially whiskey which has been in any wine based cask is potentially a problem. The well known whiskey casks that have been used prior for wine are Port, Burgundy, Madeira and Bourdeaux. There are numerous others and it is worth checking on the type of maturation.

3. Dayan Westheim in the Uk gave a shiur on whisky a couple of years ago. He said that the Heter of Reb Moshe was based on a Minchas Yitzchok, and Dayan Westheim claims that the Minchas Yitchok was Choizer and that the Metzius has changed. Whilst he did not Assur wine based whisky, he got as close to it as he could without risking being lynched. Privated, he holds and tells people that wine based and ALL double or triple matured whiskies must not be drunk (excuse the pun). He holds that if you already have these bottles, they are not Ossur B’hano’o and can be sold.

4. Dayan Westheim basically said in that shiur that you should read the label on the bottle AND on the tube/box. If sherry or wine based maturation is not mentioned then you can drink it even if you know that it has been matured in these casks. The reason being that the maturation does not have the Chashivus of sherry or wine otherwise they would write and publicise this on their labels, as it sells for more money.

By: cherrybim

cherrybim — Tue, 08 Jun 2010 22:19:06 +0000

What’s the difference? It’s the OU (Rav Belsky) and that’s it. Goes great with herring.

By: ani oymer

ani oymer — Tue, 08 Jun 2010 21:58:54 +0000

Here comes all the amoratzim with their baseless opinions & silly questions.

Bottom line its a great development because people put out questionable shnapps by their simcha and the guests assume that what the host puts out is reliable.
The more quality shnapps there are out there with hechsherim the easier it will be to pressure baalay simcha to only put out the stuff with the hechsher.