Comments on: YWN MAILBAG: What’s The Difference Between Weprin & Goldfeder?

By: mrmoose

mrmoose — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:38:42 +0000

Fruitchic as what point is it semantics and at one point is it double talk? I understand Phil is in a difficult position, he wants to serve the Frum community, but being as that he was appointed by the Democratic machine, he is required to hold positions that are unpopular with the Frum community such as gay marriage and vouchers. He claims to be an independent, but that is hard to believe considering both his background of working for Shumer and his being appointed not nominated to run. Silver and Welpirn are honest about this contradiction and believe that the funds the are able to bring in to the community from the Democratic Machine make compromise acceptable. Phil seems to have dealt with this by telling everyone what the want to here, he gave an ambigous statement at the debate that put him to the left of Darcey, thus not hurting him with the party, while when talking to frum people he claims he would have voted no. To me that is troubling and it is difficult to vote for a candidate you feel you can not trust.

By: Muki

Muki — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 13:15:39 +0000

The frum community MUST take the lead in bringing sanity back to politics, in particular in the state of NY. The liberal Democratic policies supported by the likes of nominally Jewish politicians such as Charles Schumer, Sheldon Silver, etc. go against the interests of the Jewish community and are contrary to Torah values.

These people are wrong on just about every issue: School vouchers, gay marriage, economic policy, gun control. Being pro-Israel isn’t nearly enough, especially since some of Israel’s best friends in Congress are fundamentalist Christians (and their views on moral issues are closer to ours than these so called Jews). I can’t wait to see Weprin go down in flames, and I hope Schumer is next!

By: yehudayona

yehudayona — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 13:00:30 +0000

Jane Deacy is an Irish ex-cop who lives in Breezy Point, a gated community that effectively excludes minorities. Her views are out of sync with the majority of the voters of the district. If she wins, it will be on the coattails of Turner (also a Breezy Point residents) — on the western end of the peninsula, I’ve seen lots of Deacy lawn signs next to Turner lawn signs.

Goldfeder’s campaign has inundated the frum community with robocalls and literature, but I’m not sure how effective they’ve been with getting out the vote of our non-Jewish neighbors in Far Rockaway.

Deacy has disingenuously asked why unions have endorsed Goldfeder when she is a union member and he is not. The obvious answer is that the police union is on a different wavelength than most unions. You just have to look at the Wisconsin union debacle to see this — when the Republicans in Wisconsin killed collective bargaining rights for public employee unions, they made an exception for police. This shows that it wasn’t a matter of principle, but rather a matter of political expediency.

I have mixed feelings about frum Jews in politics. While it’s clear that they understand the needs and interests of the community, it’s also clear that having frum Jews in office breeds anti-Semitism (just look at District 15). Nonetheless, I’m voting for Goldfeder because I think Deacy would be a disaster for the Far Rockaway community, Jewish and non-Jewish.

By: fruitchic

fruitchic — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:01:27 +0000

Personally I know that Phil is not for the gay marraige bill. this is semanitcs what he said, what he didn’t full said. you are foolish to ruin an entire frum community’s future by semantics about this issue when the issues of families suffering under tuition crisis and high taxes is what Phil will help all yidden with. are you 100% perfect in everything YOU all do? dear fellow repliers, don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater. get out and vote today for PHil Goldfeder.

By: www.josephhayon.com

www.josephhayon.com — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:18:58 +0000

Thank you hdillnyc for providing the video clip. The moderator should have phrased the question, “Would you vote to repeal gay marriage in NY?”

Gay marriage passed in California, and then was repealed. There is no reason why we can’t do so in NY as well.

It is clear that the Jewish community in Queens should vote for Republican Jane Deacy.

#17 and #23, I agree with #38 that the correct way to boycott an election is to go to the voting booth and submit a blank ballot. The BOE records will show you have voted, even though you voted for no one.

However, # 38 is clearly wrong in his support for Phil. Halacha requires us to abandon any legislator that will support any form of government recognition of same gender relationships. It makes no difference if you call it marriage, civil unions, or spaghetti and meatballs.

Based on Phil’s refusal to answer a direct question, and the concept of “shema vebari, shema adif”, since Phil avoiding taking a public position against gay marriage, the correct person to vote for is Jane Deacy.

By: hdillnyc

hdillnyc — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 03:21:07 +0000

Here is a video from last weeks debate where Jane Deacy states she opposes gay marriage and Philip Goldfeder refuses to take a position. See for yourself….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_DCLUvDHvc

By: HearingLawyer

HearingLawyer — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 02:12:48 +0000

I don’t really have much to add that has not been said (in one form or another) already, but it seriously boggles my mind how any supposedly frum jew can (i) start taking potshots at another frum jew and (ii) do so when the impact could harm an entire community – b/c, bottom line, if Phil does not win this election, the entire FR community will essentially get shut out of state funding. It really is that simple.

What is even more egregious is that this commenter clearly doesn’t know any of the facts on the ground, making him at best a dangerous ignoramus and, at worst, someone who is intentionally trying to harm an ehrliche yid and an entire community.

What absolute and utterly shameful behavior.

By: yehudayona

yehudayona — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 02:05:03 +0000

If you’re planning to boycott the election because you can’t bring yourself to vote for either Weprin or Turner, consider this. Politicians look at the number of voters who turn out. By not voting, you won’t be in the count. In the old days, when we had mechanical voting machines, you could have gone into the booth, not pulled any levers, and had the fact that you “voted” register. I don’t know if the new scanner system will let you submit a ballot with no markings, but I urge you to try it. If the system allows it, you will at least show that you cared enough to show up.

By: fruitchic

fruitchic — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 01:22:03 +0000

My name is Chaia Frishman. I am NOT hiding behind anything but the username they asked me to write. I think that unless you know Yeruchem personally, and live in our community, you have NO right to post these blasphemous and disgusting posts. This is a yid who has ever intention of making our community better, which will in turn make things better for all of us when vouchers are passed and such. Unless you have real proof, what you are doing is Mesira, Motzi Sheim Ra, and Asur min HaTorah. Such religious people according to your posts, I am sure you want to avoid that.

By: yum

yum — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 00:44:05 +0000

I am just disgusted by this letter. Just because Goldfeder is a Democrat does not place him in the same category as Weprin. He is an erlich guy from a well-known family which is deeply involved in community service. His father and brothers are on Hatzolah as well as many community organizations.