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		<title>By: baalat-teshuva</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[baalat-teshuva]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2012 18:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David was never pretending to be frum. In the Soviet Union, if a boy was being called Dima/Dimitry and was a Jew, everybody (Jews) knew that his real name was David and to make his life easier the parents named him Dima. The same case with Natan Sharansky, who you might remember as Anatoly when some of you were demonstrating for his release fro prison. Thank you all for that, by the way.
David is a conservative guy, who does know some things about Judaism  and certainly knows a lot about Jewish values. He is trying to learn more and he did go to that shul for some time before he even thought about running.
When he comes to an observant home for Shabbos or Yom tov, as the previous writer just said, he does wear a kippah.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David was never pretending to be frum. In the Soviet Union, if a boy was being called Dima/Dimitry and was a Jew, everybody (Jews) knew that his real name was David and to make his life easier the parents named him Dima. The same case with Natan Sharansky, who you might remember as Anatoly when some of you were demonstrating for his release fro prison. Thank you all for that, by the way.<br />
David is a conservative guy, who does know some things about Judaism  and certainly knows a lot about Jewish values. He is trying to learn more and he did go to that shul for some time before he even thought about running.<br />
When he comes to an observant home for Shabbos or Yom tov, as the previous writer just said, he does wear a kippah.</p>
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		<title>By: StateSenator</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[StateSenator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 16:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Gold, you seemed to have taken Hayon&#039;s word and switched them around. &quot;Even if David started going to shul and went through a name change to benefit his campaign.&quot; The word&#039;s &quot;Even if&quot; means that let us say that maybe that was the reason. Hayon never said he changed his name, or started to go to shul to benefit his campaign . You wrote  &quot;In fact, Hayon admits that he did these for political reasons.&quot; really Hayon Never said that once. 

 
second, David went to gateways and completed and leadership program. If he is going to Gateways, he must be on his way.

David Never lied to anyone. He never said himself he was frum, He even told someone who asked David straight out if he was frum. 
abcd2 says:
March 4, 2012 at 10:24 am
I met david storobin Motzai shabbos. He was asked point blank if he was fully orthodox. He answered clearly that he tries to keep laws of kashrus and observe shabbos and belongs to a frum shule and tries to observe other mitzvos. I was very impressed as this was a very straight forward answer from a politician, and showed that he was not at all trying to fool people that he was 100% frum.

Also if David was pretending to be frum I think he would were a more mainstream Kippa. He told me he wears that kippa because he has always done so when he was in shul or at someone house for a shabbos meal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Gold, you seemed to have taken Hayon&#8217;s word and switched them around. &#8220;Even if David started going to shul and went through a name change to benefit his campaign.&#8221; The word&#8217;s &#8220;Even if&#8221; means that let us say that maybe that was the reason. Hayon never said he changed his name, or started to go to shul to benefit his campaign . You wrote  &#8220;In fact, Hayon admits that he did these for political reasons.&#8221; really Hayon Never said that once. </p>
<p>second, David went to gateways and completed and leadership program. If he is going to Gateways, he must be on his way.</p>
<p>David Never lied to anyone. He never said himself he was frum, He even told someone who asked David straight out if he was frum.<br />
abcd2 says:<br />
March 4, 2012 at 10:24 am<br />
I met david storobin Motzai shabbos. He was asked point blank if he was fully orthodox. He answered clearly that he tries to keep laws of kashrus and observe shabbos and belongs to a frum shule and tries to observe other mitzvos. I was very impressed as this was a very straight forward answer from a politician, and showed that he was not at all trying to fool people that he was 100% frum.</p>
<p>Also if David was pretending to be frum I think he would were a more mainstream Kippa. He told me he wears that kippa because he has always done so when he was in shul or at someone house for a shabbos meal.</p>
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		<title>By: informed-in-flatbush</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[informed-in-flatbush]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 21:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Democrats focus on character assassination because that&#039;s all they have.  I think we are better served when we focus on the issues.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Democrats focus on character assassination because that&#8217;s all they have.  I think we are better served when we focus on the issues.</p>
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		<title>By: thecommissioner</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thecommissioner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 21:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have been debating whether to write an OP ed for YWN readers. It just seems so foolish that people are even debating who to vote for. Does the Frum community want a guy that is pro-immorality so much that he voted for a non-binding measure Pro-Toeva. Lately I&#039;ve been hearing the &quot;anyone but Obama&quot; slogan. Most people don&#039;t care who is running against Obama, they just don&#039;t want Obama. With Mr. Fidler so tight with the United Federation of Teachers, who is he kidding when he says he will fight for Yeshiva&#039;s? Mr. Fidler fought against the closing of non productive schools. He is so tight with the UFT, that he thought is wasn&#039;t such a big deal that the UFT PAID city council members to follow a UFT pre written script when they were to question the UFT. Do you remember when the City Council members extended their stay by voting them selves an extension? Well Mr. Fidler was one of those guys. I would rather stand behind Agudath Yisroel, and Mr Strobin then stand behind a career politician who has falseness seeping out on all sides of him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been debating whether to write an OP ed for YWN readers. It just seems so foolish that people are even debating who to vote for. Does the Frum community want a guy that is pro-immorality so much that he voted for a non-binding measure Pro-Toeva. Lately I&#8217;ve been hearing the &#8220;anyone but Obama&#8221; slogan. Most people don&#8217;t care who is running against Obama, they just don&#8217;t want Obama. With Mr. Fidler so tight with the United Federation of Teachers, who is he kidding when he says he will fight for Yeshiva&#8217;s? Mr. Fidler fought against the closing of non productive schools. He is so tight with the UFT, that he thought is wasn&#8217;t such a big deal that the UFT PAID city council members to follow a UFT pre written script when they were to question the UFT. Do you remember when the City Council members extended their stay by voting them selves an extension? Well Mr. Fidler was one of those guys. I would rather stand behind Agudath Yisroel, and Mr Strobin then stand behind a career politician who has falseness seeping out on all sides of him.</p>
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		<title>By: anIsraeliYid</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anIsraeliYid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 19:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Moderator - in response to your comment on my posting, yes, the New York Times does demand that someone with an official or other position, writing in on an issue related to such position, specifically have that position noted - genrally just under the published letter (i.e., Mr. XYZ is the spokesman for the ABC campaign).  The reason for this is to allow readers to assess a letter in light of such information - I may find his analysis interesting, but would not expect a Democratic activist to be unbiased in assessing the pros and cons of the Republican candidate.  

When a letter is as full of spin as the one from &quot;Mr. Gold&quot; above, it truly does beg the question as to who he is and what is his motivation.

an Israeli Yid]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moderator &#8211; in response to your comment on my posting, yes, the New York Times does demand that someone with an official or other position, writing in on an issue related to such position, specifically have that position noted &#8211; genrally just under the published letter (i.e., Mr. XYZ is the spokesman for the ABC campaign).  The reason for this is to allow readers to assess a letter in light of such information &#8211; I may find his analysis interesting, but would not expect a Democratic activist to be unbiased in assessing the pros and cons of the Republican candidate.  </p>
<p>When a letter is as full of spin as the one from &#8220;Mr. Gold&#8221; above, it truly does beg the question as to who he is and what is his motivation.</p>
<p>an Israeli Yid</p>
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		<title>By: popa_bar_abba</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[popa_bar_abba]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 17:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We need the white house tapes.
What did he know, and when did he know it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need the white house tapes.<br />
What did he know, and when did he know it?</p>
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		<title>By: mark levin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mark levin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 17:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frum or not, who cares???? These are the same fools that will vote for goysihe yiddin  oysvorfs on the left like Chuck U Schumer!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frum or not, who cares???? These are the same fools that will vote for goysihe yiddin  oysvorfs on the left like Chuck U Schumer!</p>
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		<title>By: mom12</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mom12]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 17:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is nothing wrong in electing someone who is none observant.. as long as he represents your needs.
I think the issue is that he lied and one does not know what his real political agenda is!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing wrong in electing someone who is none observant.. as long as he represents your needs.<br />
I think the issue is that he lied and one does not know what his real political agenda is!</p>
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		<title>By: Chazir Fisel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chazir Fisel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 17:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WOW! WOW! WOW!
This is wild. If Storobin lied to our community&#039;s rabbonim he must immediately apologize and withdraw from the race!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW! WOW! WOW!<br />
This is wild. If Storobin lied to our community&#8217;s rabbonim he must immediately apologize and withdraw from the race!</p>
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		<title>By: deepthinker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deepthinker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 17:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s cut to the chase. The issue is not whether anyone wears Tzitzis or dons Tefillin of Rabbeinu Tam.

Rav Belsky put it very succinctly. We have been supporting politicians who have destroyed all semblance of public morality in this country. It has been a Chilul Hashem.

Given a choice between a politician who has always been allied with the forces of Sodomy and who wants to continue with these efforts, versus a politician who openly declares his opposition to these efforts, the choice is clear.

All the rest is nothing more than Treif baloney.

And, remeber the old saying: &quot;All that glitters, is not GOLD.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s cut to the chase. The issue is not whether anyone wears Tzitzis or dons Tefillin of Rabbeinu Tam.</p>
<p>Rav Belsky put it very succinctly. We have been supporting politicians who have destroyed all semblance of public morality in this country. It has been a Chilul Hashem.</p>
<p>Given a choice between a politician who has always been allied with the forces of Sodomy and who wants to continue with these efforts, versus a politician who openly declares his opposition to these efforts, the choice is clear.</p>
<p>All the rest is nothing more than Treif baloney.</p>
<p>And, remeber the old saying: &#8220;All that glitters, is not GOLD.&#8221;</p>
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