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		<title>By: three_oaths</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 23:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While excessive drinking on Purim is a serious problem, a better, more long-term solution is for adults to carefully monitor the drinking of these young men, controlling the amount and type of alcohol as well as offering food and non-alcoholic drinks--the same way youth drinking was monitored in the alter heim. Pressure must be put on the state and federal governments to abolish their condescending, infantalizing and fascistic drinking age laws (a legacy of alcohol prohibition madness). The only way to learn responsible drinking is under careful adult supervision, not in an underground, rebellious environment full of immature bachurim.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While excessive drinking on Purim is a serious problem, a better, more long-term solution is for adults to carefully monitor the drinking of these young men, controlling the amount and type of alcohol as well as offering food and non-alcoholic drinks&#8211;the same way youth drinking was monitored in the alter heim. Pressure must be put on the state and federal governments to abolish their condescending, infantalizing and fascistic drinking age laws (a legacy of alcohol prohibition madness). The only way to learn responsible drinking is under careful adult supervision, not in an underground, rebellious environment full of immature bachurim.</p>
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		<title>By: Snoobins</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 17:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wild story Bro. Teachers need to educate more regarding the dangers- you are collecting for their institution after all- as do parents. That being said, and I like to drink too, you drank way too much and your naivete comes right through with your thoughts while being inebriated. Steer clear if you are not mature enough to handle as with most anything.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wild story Bro. Teachers need to educate more regarding the dangers- you are collecting for their institution after all- as do parents. That being said, and I like to drink too, you drank way too much and your naivete comes right through with your thoughts while being inebriated. Steer clear if you are not mature enough to handle as with most anything.</p>
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		<title>By: lkwd teen</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2012 20:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Happy shushan purim. Reuven u have a lot of guts putting ur name on this article, however ur story is extreme I drank 64 oz. Of vodka and the only problem I had was throwing up later on. You r right that ppl go above and beyond the call of duty but either u have a very low alchol tollerence or u mixed wtvr the case may be you can&#039;t say that if some1 does what u do then that&#039;s what&#039;s going to happen. The truth is every1 has a breakin point but urs is really low I&#039;m very glad that we still u with us and we r happy that u posted this story. Thanx alot]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy shushan purim. Reuven u have a lot of guts putting ur name on this article, however ur story is extreme I drank 64 oz. Of vodka and the only problem I had was throwing up later on. You r right that ppl go above and beyond the call of duty but either u have a very low alchol tollerence or u mixed wtvr the case may be you can&#8217;t say that if some1 does what u do then that&#8217;s what&#8217;s going to happen. The truth is every1 has a breakin point but urs is really low I&#8217;m very glad that we still u with us and we r happy that u posted this story. Thanx alot</p>
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		<title>By: tothepoint</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 08:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For thos how say it is a mitzva to get drunk there are other ways of doing it , by sleeping AND by the way the mitzva is do drink wine!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For thos how say it is a mitzva to get drunk there are other ways of doing it , by sleeping AND by the way the mitzva is do drink wine!!</p>
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		<title>By: rc</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 05:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just want Reuven and all the bachurim that might bother to read this comment, that my friend&#039;s son was not as &quot;lucky&quot; as you. and instead of listening to Megilah and giving Shalach Manos, my friend&#039;s husband was in the morgue R&quot;L identifying his son&#039;s body. No one should know from this ever, and it was completely avoidable. There is no excuse for this drinking, collecting and driving. Please take these Hatzolah posters and messages to heart.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want Reuven and all the bachurim that might bother to read this comment, that my friend&#8217;s son was not as &#8220;lucky&#8221; as you. and instead of listening to Megilah and giving Shalach Manos, my friend&#8217;s husband was in the morgue R&#8221;L identifying his son&#8217;s body. No one should know from this ever, and it was completely avoidable. There is no excuse for this drinking, collecting and driving. Please take these Hatzolah posters and messages to heart.</p>
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		<title>By: pundit101</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 04:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only reason why the age limit to drink is 21 in the US is because of driving.Be&#039;etzem its 18, just that if the age limit would be 18 then inexperienced teen drivers  would be able to buy alcohol which  would be a disaster.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only reason why the age limit to drink is 21 in the US is because of driving.Be&#8217;etzem its 18, just that if the age limit would be 18 then inexperienced teen drivers  would be able to buy alcohol which  would be a disaster.</p>
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		<title>By: musicoutlet</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 01:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reuvain is a saint for writing something which is so personal. Anyone who writes personal stories to help the tzibur must be an amazing type of person.

I have seen numerous Purim videos of gedolim  and  always notice that the gedolim drank simple kedem melaga wine. 

We have to follow the lead of gedolim and not mix wines and schnapps. Stick to one type of alcohol beverage and not more than 4 cups. Weight,age and height play a big role with how meshuga you get when drinking.

Police officers will be posted at all yeshivos this year and give breathalyzer tests to save you from getting into a car and getting arrested.  if you see a police officer at the door give a nice tip.

Happy Purim]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reuvain is a saint for writing something which is so personal. Anyone who writes personal stories to help the tzibur must be an amazing type of person.</p>
<p>I have seen numerous Purim videos of gedolim  and  always notice that the gedolim drank simple kedem melaga wine. </p>
<p>We have to follow the lead of gedolim and not mix wines and schnapps. Stick to one type of alcohol beverage and not more than 4 cups. Weight,age and height play a big role with how meshuga you get when drinking.</p>
<p>Police officers will be posted at all yeshivos this year and give breathalyzer tests to save you from getting into a car and getting arrested.  if you see a police officer at the door give a nice tip.</p>
<p>Happy Purim</p>
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		<title>By: mybat</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 04:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just teach your kids that if they are going to drink to choose one drink because when  you mix different types of alcohol it is worse and to drink a couple of shots. That&#039;s it! Not 50 oz. Because, let&#039;s face it, your kids gonna drink on purim. Just teach them how to do it without ending up in the hospital or throwing up all over the place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just teach your kids that if they are going to drink to choose one drink because when  you mix different types of alcohol it is worse and to drink a couple of shots. That&#8217;s it! Not 50 oz. Because, let&#8217;s face it, your kids gonna drink on purim. Just teach them how to do it without ending up in the hospital or throwing up all over the place.</p>
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		<title>By: mw13</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 04:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, stories like this are tragic. But that by no means takes away the obligation to drink on Purim. Drink safely, drink smartly, but still drink.

Also, I think educating our boys on how to drink safely will be far more effective than trying to get them not to drink at all. Anybody that knows anything about alcohol knows that taking the equivalent of 16 shots in 15 minutes is stupid, bordering on suicidal. If we would tell our boys how to drink safely instead of trying (and failing) to stop any drinking at all, we wouldn&#039;t be having these problems.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, stories like this are tragic. But that by no means takes away the obligation to drink on Purim. Drink safely, drink smartly, but still drink.</p>
<p>Also, I think educating our boys on how to drink safely will be far more effective than trying to get them not to drink at all. Anybody that knows anything about alcohol knows that taking the equivalent of 16 shots in 15 minutes is stupid, bordering on suicidal. If we would tell our boys how to drink safely instead of trying (and failing) to stop any drinking at all, we wouldn&#8217;t be having these problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Face Reality</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 00:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry Reuven but you were irresponsible &amp; immature. Unfortunately you had to learn the hard way, B&quot;H you were at least given the opportunity to live to learn the hard way. I&#039;m a bocher in Yeshiva who has gone collecting 9 years (since the very young age of 13, 8th grade) &amp; iy&quot;h this year will be the 10th. NEVER have I been with or seen a bocher drink that much!! &amp; NEVER would any one of my &quot;group mates&quot; (geshmakeh oilam) let such a thing happen between us!! And believe me, we get reeeeallly trashed, &quot;gantz toit&quot;.
     Its a great thing you publicized your mayseh even though it is only for the few irresponsible guys &amp; of those, few that will actually listen (miyutah d&#039;miyutah). Each &amp; every bocher is priceless, to save one is worth the world. After all they make the world go round &amp; will lead our future generations. However remember all these signs, stories, advertisements, warnings etc... are for this is extreme minority (miyutah d&#039;miyutah) of those that are irresponsible &amp; that will listen.
     You show your stupidity &amp; amaratzus in toirah when you start making all these toiras with ushmartem es nafshoisaichem, mitzva h&#039;bah b&#039;avaira etc... (that&#039;s what we bochrim call &quot;Purim Torah&quot;). There is a clear pushit chiuv &quot;chayiv inish&quot;, DON&#039;T TRY DEFINING IT ANY OTHER WAY THAN ITS CLEAR AND TRUE MEANING. Those of us (most of us) who are responsible and mature - kol h&#039;kovod. Those that aren&#039;t, your parents have to educate you and till then keep you on a leash. I&#039;m not yet experienced to go into the process &amp; ways of educating children to be responsible &amp; careful. Your immaturity &amp; lack of self control will hurt you in many ways the rest of your lives, this is merely one instance in which your lack is clearly shown &amp; brought to the extreme surface. To the extent of pikuach nefesh.
     Oh &amp; by the way, 21 is an American made age of responsibility. In most countries the age is lower &amp; our rabanim decreed 13 or 20 (chaiv b&#039;oinshin) as the age of responsibility. Go darshin but soif maiseh there is nothing like an emeseh bocher who spends hours upon hours learning toirah every day, deeply soaked in toirah, sh&#039;kuah b&#039;toirah, rolling around stone shikur filled with wine shmoozing or rather slurring or even trying to slur in TORAH.
KIMMU V&#039;KIBLU - L&#039;CHAIM!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry Reuven but you were irresponsible &amp; immature. Unfortunately you had to learn the hard way, B&#8221;H you were at least given the opportunity to live to learn the hard way. I&#8217;m a bocher in Yeshiva who has gone collecting 9 years (since the very young age of 13, 8th grade) &amp; iy&#8221;h this year will be the 10th. NEVER have I been with or seen a bocher drink that much!! &amp; NEVER would any one of my &#8220;group mates&#8221; (geshmakeh oilam) let such a thing happen between us!! And believe me, we get reeeeallly trashed, &#8220;gantz toit&#8221;.<br />
     Its a great thing you publicized your mayseh even though it is only for the few irresponsible guys &amp; of those, few that will actually listen (miyutah d&#8217;miyutah). Each &amp; every bocher is priceless, to save one is worth the world. After all they make the world go round &amp; will lead our future generations. However remember all these signs, stories, advertisements, warnings etc&#8230; are for this is extreme minority (miyutah d&#8217;miyutah) of those that are irresponsible &amp; that will listen.<br />
     You show your stupidity &amp; amaratzus in toirah when you start making all these toiras with ushmartem es nafshoisaichem, mitzva h&#8217;bah b&#8217;avaira etc&#8230; (that&#8217;s what we bochrim call &#8220;Purim Torah&#8221;). There is a clear pushit chiuv &#8220;chayiv inish&#8221;, DON&#8217;T TRY DEFINING IT ANY OTHER WAY THAN ITS CLEAR AND TRUE MEANING. Those of us (most of us) who are responsible and mature &#8211; kol h&#8217;kovod. Those that aren&#8217;t, your parents have to educate you and till then keep you on a leash. I&#8217;m not yet experienced to go into the process &amp; ways of educating children to be responsible &amp; careful. Your immaturity &amp; lack of self control will hurt you in many ways the rest of your lives, this is merely one instance in which your lack is clearly shown &amp; brought to the extreme surface. To the extent of pikuach nefesh.<br />
     Oh &amp; by the way, 21 is an American made age of responsibility. In most countries the age is lower &amp; our rabanim decreed 13 or 20 (chaiv b&#8217;oinshin) as the age of responsibility. Go darshin but soif maiseh there is nothing like an emeseh bocher who spends hours upon hours learning toirah every day, deeply soaked in toirah, sh&#8217;kuah b&#8217;toirah, rolling around stone shikur filled with wine shmoozing or rather slurring or even trying to slur in TORAH.<br />
KIMMU V&#8217;KIBLU &#8211; L&#8217;CHAIM!!!</p>
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