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		<title>By: akuperma</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[akuperma]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Left vs. Right (answer to #5)

Originally, left and right referred to where a delegate sat in the revolutionary French parliament. Jews weren&#039;t allowed to vote or hold office.  In the United States, a &quot;left&quot; winger is  a &quot;dove&quot; who supportx welfare programs, and a &quot;right&quot; winger is a &quot;hawk&quot; who feels that the poor should pull themselves up by their bootstraps (reflecting the &quot;Protestant&quot; ethic). In Israel, the secular nationalists (descended from the Revisionists and Herut) are &quot;hawks&quot; who emulate the Protestant ethic. While Orthodox tend to be either fanatical doves of fanatical hawks, almost all Orthodox are pro-welfare (after all, we invented entitlements millenia ago), which results in being aligned on these issues with what Americans perceive as the &quot;left&quot; (socialist doves, most Arabs). Given the perception of most rabbanim that Jewish survival is a function of Torah and Mitzvos rather than military skills or an affluent lifestyle for the elites, this is quite logical.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Left vs. Right (answer to #5)</p>
<p>Originally, left and right referred to where a delegate sat in the revolutionary French parliament. Jews weren&#8217;t allowed to vote or hold office.  In the United States, a &#8220;left&#8221; winger is  a &#8220;dove&#8221; who supportx welfare programs, and a &#8220;right&#8221; winger is a &#8220;hawk&#8221; who feels that the poor should pull themselves up by their bootstraps (reflecting the &#8220;Protestant&#8221; ethic). In Israel, the secular nationalists (descended from the Revisionists and Herut) are &#8220;hawks&#8221; who emulate the Protestant ethic. While Orthodox tend to be either fanatical doves of fanatical hawks, almost all Orthodox are pro-welfare (after all, we invented entitlements millenia ago), which results in being aligned on these issues with what Americans perceive as the &#8220;left&#8221; (socialist doves, most Arabs). Given the perception of most rabbanim that Jewish survival is a function of Torah and Mitzvos rather than military skills or an affluent lifestyle for the elites, this is quite logical.</p>
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		<title>By: cityofgold</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems that everyone else gets full Socialist benefits–free education, child care. etc.

HEY deep, chadorim and chinuch atzmi school are free education in Israel today on level with any other govt school.  There are some childcare services that begin at age 4 that are free in some areas.  Free medical services and bituach leumi for all religious observers also. Most charadim benefit from low arnona taxes in addt.
   Raising the child allowance is fiscially insane and will effect other areas in costs rising.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that everyone else gets full Socialist benefits–free education, child care. etc.</p>
<p>HEY deep, chadorim and chinuch atzmi school are free education in Israel today on level with any other govt school.  There are some childcare services that begin at age 4 that are free in some areas.  Free medical services and bituach leumi for all religious observers also. Most charadim benefit from low arnona taxes in addt.<br />
   Raising the child allowance is fiscially insane and will effect other areas in costs rising.</p>
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		<title>By: deepthinker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deepthinker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Charlie (no. 6):

The Jewish community almost always supports the powers-that-be, whether they be Socialists, Communists, Capitalists, Monarchists, or Muslims, depending on which country is involved.

This is a survival tactic for our small, oppressed minority.

The Israeli establishment is overwhelmingly keftist, with its origins in the communistic Kibbutz System. The Labor Party, and its junior partners in MERETZ have been, and continue to be the ruling class that dominates the sourt system and the media, and the educational system.

Kadima is a fake clone of the Labor party and some Likud turncoats.

So, don&#039;t blame the victims for trying to survive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Charlie (no. 6):</p>
<p>The Jewish community almost always supports the powers-that-be, whether they be Socialists, Communists, Capitalists, Monarchists, or Muslims, depending on which country is involved.</p>
<p>This is a survival tactic for our small, oppressed minority.</p>
<p>The Israeli establishment is overwhelmingly keftist, with its origins in the communistic Kibbutz System. The Labor Party, and its junior partners in MERETZ have been, and continue to be the ruling class that dominates the sourt system and the media, and the educational system.</p>
<p>Kadima is a fake clone of the Labor party and some Likud turncoats.</p>
<p>So, don&#8217;t blame the victims for trying to survive.</p>
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		<title>By: deepthinker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deepthinker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear akuperma (no. 3):

You don&#039;t know your &quot;Left&quot; from your &quot;Right!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear akuperma (no. 3):</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t know your &#8220;Left&#8221; from your &#8220;Right!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: YaakovKuperman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[YaakovKuperman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As good as this would be I doubt it&#039;s ever going to happen]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As good as this would be I doubt it&#8217;s ever going to happen</p>
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		<title>By: akuperma</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[akuperma]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you look at the Israeli political system based on socio-economic issues (rather than
foreign affairs and relations with the Arabs), the &quot;left&quot; (as Americans define it) consists of the
religious parties, the Arabs and the socialists, with the &quot;right&quot; (as Americans define it) consisting of the Israeli &quot;center&quot; (Kadmia and Likud, and a few others), with the &quot;center&quot; favoring an economic policy that stresses a fiscal responsibility, supporting the business elite and oppressing the poor. To get a social alliance to be coherent, it requires settling the current dispute with the Arabs, since as long as Israeli is fighting the Arabs, the political spectrum will split on a hawk-dove line, rather than on issues of welfare policy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you look at the Israeli political system based on socio-economic issues (rather than<br />
foreign affairs and relations with the Arabs), the &#8220;left&#8221; (as Americans define it) consists of the<br />
religious parties, the Arabs and the socialists, with the &#8220;right&#8221; (as Americans define it) consisting of the Israeli &#8220;center&#8221; (Kadmia and Likud, and a few others), with the &#8220;center&#8221; favoring an economic policy that stresses a fiscal responsibility, supporting the business elite and oppressing the poor. To get a social alliance to be coherent, it requires settling the current dispute with the Arabs, since as long as Israeli is fighting the Arabs, the political spectrum will split on a hawk-dove line, rather than on issues of welfare policy.</p>
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		<title>By: deepthinker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deepthinker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a lefe-ordeath ParNossa Issue for large hareidi families living in a Socialist state.

It seems that everyone else gets full Socialist benefits--free education, child care. etc.--from the Government, while Hareidim are grudgingly treated as second-class citizens, entitled to only a fraction of what others get.

When Hareidim apply for jobs, the State usually refuses to hire them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a lefe-ordeath ParNossa Issue for large hareidi families living in a Socialist state.</p>
<p>It seems that everyone else gets full Socialist benefits&#8211;free education, child care. etc.&#8211;from the Government, while Hareidim are grudgingly treated as second-class citizens, entitled to only a fraction of what others get.</p>
<p>When Hareidim apply for jobs, the State usually refuses to hire them.</p>
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		<title>By: hyuli</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hyuli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Money that they get to give out, with a lot sticking to their hands is all shas cares about, Not he safety of 6 million yidden, keyn yirbu, not the terrible confusion of mihu yehudi, not the lack of any yiddishkeit in the general schools, not the failure to create a system for frum people to earn a living bekvod.

For Shame!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Money that they get to give out, with a lot sticking to their hands is all shas cares about, Not he safety of 6 million yidden, keyn yirbu, not the terrible confusion of mihu yehudi, not the lack of any yiddishkeit in the general schools, not the failure to create a system for frum people to earn a living bekvod.</p>
<p>For Shame!</p>
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