Comments on: Pittsburgh: Dealing with trash issues

By: masterz

masterz — Sun, 24 Dec 2006 05:22:54 +0000

It’s a problem when shabbos starts early. Garbage may not be put out before 7pm or you can be fined.

By: kishke

kishke — Wed, 20 Dec 2006 22:25:34 +0000

FF: Please, give me a break. There is no issur, and you know it.

By: FrumForum

FrumForum — Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:34:14 +0000

Actually, there are a few halachic ramifications (we have the same problem here in Detroit.)
1) This is a type of Amira l’Akum (telling a goy to do work for you) – since it’s your garbage cans, and you’ve put them out for him to do it. (And it’s unlikely you were mafkir them, even though you put them out beyond the street curb.)
2) He’s carring from reshus to reshus. Since the garbage can is probably big enough to be called a Reshus Hayochid, and he’s moving it over a Reshus Horabim (the street) into his truck – another Reshus Hayochid.
3) It’s questionable whether or not he’s doing it “a’d'aata d’nafsheh” (on his own will), thereby doing for himself (which is OK) – really it’s his boss’s daas. Or is he doing it for you the Yid, since the garbage is near your house.

By: yochy

yochy — Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:23:03 +0000

I live there and my garbage is still picked up on Tuesday. I haven’t seen trucks on Shabbos although I don’t see any issue if there was.

By: kishke

kishke — Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:30:37 +0000

Big deal! So on those seven weeks, they’ll put out the garbage on Friday. Why must people make a ruckus about every stupid thing?

By: yeshivaman

yeshivaman — Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:22:08 +0000

This is ridiculous! As far as I know there is no issur for non-Jews to pick up trash on Shabbos. There is also no reason that Jews cannot take their trash out on Friday — before Shabbos. For years I lived in a city that had trash pickup on Friday (and sometimes was delayed until Shabbos). In many ways it was a tremendous ma’aleh as we were able to get rid of all of the pre-Shabbos garbage.

What do you do if your trash pickup occurs on Yom Tov during the week? Don’t you have the same issues? While carrying is permitted, in most cases garbage (especially garbage that accumulate before Yom Yov) is muktzeh and thus you still can’t take it out on Yom Tov.

By: ac123

ac123 — Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:22:20 +0000

In flatbush where I live as well as many other very religious Jews, garbage pickup on many different blocks including my own is on Shabbat. So big deal, put out the garbage friday night before shabbat starts…I really dont see a problem with garbage being picked up by non jews on shabbat

By: Halevai

Halevai — Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:52:13 +0000

In Brooklyn, they have the same problem – every week. Trash is picked up on Shabbos. They put out the cans before Shabbos and bring them back in after.

Whats the big deal? This is Golus. Get used to it.

By: JOLI

JOLI — Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:48:38 +0000

I don’t really understand the issue. Parts of Boro Park also have the trash collection on Shabbos. The trash is moved to the street on Friday. Is there something else not clarified here?