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		<title>By: QueensGal</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 02:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Charedim Kol Yisroel  and Sarah: You certainly humor me!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charedim Kol Yisroel  and Sarah: You certainly humor me!</p>
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		<title>By: Yeshiva bachur</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yeshiva bachur]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2007 21:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your right it doesnt say straight out that the police said it but there is something called reading between the lines.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your right it doesnt say straight out that the police said it but there is something called reading between the lines.</p>
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		<title>By: bklynmom</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2007 19:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another accident that occurred in the Negev, with a Bedouin Arab who caused the death of 3 Israelis, the cause was driving through a RED LIGHT. The newspapers reported that 20% of the auto accidents in Israel are caused by Arab drivers, many unlicensed. Arabs are LAWLESS in all their day to day actions, wouldnt you expect the same in driving!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another accident that occurred in the Negev, with a Bedouin Arab who caused the death of 3 Israelis, the cause was driving through a RED LIGHT. The newspapers reported that 20% of the auto accidents in Israel are caused by Arab drivers, many unlicensed. Arabs are LAWLESS in all their day to day actions, wouldnt you expect the same in driving!</p>
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		<title>By: nameless</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nameless]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2007 15:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CKY
Feb. 8, 2:54 post
....(not drink and drive.....)
no mention that you have your doubts about whether or not that was the case....
Feb 9 12:06
&#039;.......unlikely a diagnosis of drunk driving could be arrived at(especially if the guy is dead)
no chiddush! you knew he was dead. What prompted your dilemma all of a sudden? t

Ones&#039; first reaction when reading an article is NOT that there might be a discrepency, and so far we havent heard there was one. Why should we anticipate it? I&#039;ll apologize for my &#039;personal bias&#039; when it turns out to be aproven fact that this guy was NOT drunk.Is that reasonable enough?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CKY<br />
Feb. 8, 2:54 post<br />
&#8230;.(not drink and drive&#8230;..)<br />
no mention that you have your doubts about whether or not that was the case&#8230;.<br />
Feb 9 12:06<br />
&#8216;&#8230;&#8230;.unlikely a diagnosis of drunk driving could be arrived at(especially if the guy is dead)<br />
no chiddush! you knew he was dead. What prompted your dilemma all of a sudden? t</p>
<p>Ones&#8217; first reaction when reading an article is NOT that there might be a discrepency, and so far we havent heard there was one. Why should we anticipate it? I&#8217;ll apologize for my &#8216;personal bias&#8217; when it turns out to be aproven fact that this guy was NOT drunk.Is that reasonable enough?</p>
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		<title>By: Charedim Kol Yisroel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charedim Kol Yisroel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[YESHIVA BACHUR -- I don&#039;t know that the police are not saying the truth. But what part of the story mentions the police saying anything? Please show me.

NAMELESS -- I&#039;m not sure I understand your criticism 100% but all I&#039;m saying about the story is that it&#039;s important to get all (or most of) the facts before drawing conclusions. This story, at least as posted above, did not have a lot of detail and was unattributed. We&#039;ve all seen instances where people jump to conclusions based on their personal biases, which conclusions turn out to be silly once the facts come out. No? 

If the article had quoted a police spokesperson or something like that, I&#039;d be with you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YESHIVA BACHUR &#8212; I don&#8217;t know that the police are not saying the truth. But what part of the story mentions the police saying anything? Please show me.</p>
<p>NAMELESS &#8212; I&#8217;m not sure I understand your criticism 100% but all I&#8217;m saying about the story is that it&#8217;s important to get all (or most of) the facts before drawing conclusions. This story, at least as posted above, did not have a lot of detail and was unattributed. We&#8217;ve all seen instances where people jump to conclusions based on their personal biases, which conclusions turn out to be silly once the facts come out. No? </p>
<p>If the article had quoted a police spokesperson or something like that, I&#8217;d be with you.</p>
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		<title>By: Yeshiva bachur</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yeshiva bachur]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2007 02:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And to add to what nameless said, how do you know that when the police said he was drunk they were not saying the truth.
Also im sorry that I said fallow please forgive me but I am currently using a blackberry and its a little hard to type.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And to add to what nameless said, how do you know that when the police said he was drunk they were not saying the truth.<br />
Also im sorry that I said fallow please forgive me but I am currently using a blackberry and its a little hard to type.</p>
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		<title>By: nameless</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Charedim .....
&#039;If anyone thinks....6 line story&#039;
&#039;Facts are way to sketchy....&#039;

Isnt that a bit of a &#039;cop out&#039;? I mean you didnt even make that point in your first post and you didnt debate whether or not the Arab was drunk either.
You only commented on the absence of details  after you were challenged.
Besides, one can only remark based on the article we see here without assuming that some dramatic turn of events will come out of the woodwork.
If its been reported that he was drunk, he probably was!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charedim &#8230;..<br />
&#8216;If anyone thinks&#8230;.6 line story&#8217;<br />
&#8216;Facts are way to sketchy&#8230;.&#8217;</p>
<p>Isnt that a bit of a &#8216;cop out&#8217;? I mean you didnt even make that point in your first post and you didnt debate whether or not the Arab was drunk either.<br />
You only commented on the absence of details  after you were challenged.<br />
Besides, one can only remark based on the article we see here without assuming that some dramatic turn of events will come out of the woodwork.<br />
If its been reported that he was drunk, he probably was!</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sarah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 19:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CKY,

It&#039;s nice you feel you &quot; bring a more balanced (if occasionally unwelcome) perspective than the standard 15 responses parroting each other&quot;. Self esteem is always a good thing.

Not sure how you 

&quot;back up what I say and (except for the occasional grammar Shtoch), I don’t resort to personal attacks and name-calling&quot;, 

but that&#039;s OK too, we won&#039;t hold you to it.

Please don’t feel defensive over 

“you will see that these mistakes are truly typographical in nature. In other words, the letters are near each other and I typed too quickly”, 

we don’t mind if you’re posts are less than a doctoral thesis- just don’t knock anyone else for their mistakes. When you feel the urge to 

“I was “mocking” an inability to spell or, more importantly, structure a coherent sentence, that is occasionally exhibited here”, 

remember that you’ve made mistakes too. Of course, only ones that are close together on the keyboard.

“This site has certainly broadened my perspective”

That’s pleasant news- keep it up

“it’s a pity that you can’t say the same.”

Your trying, and that&#039;s nice.

I&#039;ll allow you the fun of &quot;the last word&quot;, and I&#039;ll be looking out for that &quot;broadened perspective&quot;. Glad you&#039;re onboard :).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CKY,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s nice you feel you &#8221; bring a more balanced (if occasionally unwelcome) perspective than the standard 15 responses parroting each other&#8221;. Self esteem is always a good thing.</p>
<p>Not sure how you </p>
<p>&#8220;back up what I say and (except for the occasional grammar Shtoch), I don’t resort to personal attacks and name-calling&#8221;, </p>
<p>but that&#8217;s OK too, we won&#8217;t hold you to it.</p>
<p>Please don’t feel defensive over </p>
<p>“you will see that these mistakes are truly typographical in nature. In other words, the letters are near each other and I typed too quickly”, </p>
<p>we don’t mind if you’re posts are less than a doctoral thesis- just don’t knock anyone else for their mistakes. When you feel the urge to </p>
<p>“I was “mocking” an inability to spell or, more importantly, structure a coherent sentence, that is occasionally exhibited here”, </p>
<p>remember that you’ve made mistakes too. Of course, only ones that are close together on the keyboard.</p>
<p>“This site has certainly broadened my perspective”</p>
<p>That’s pleasant news- keep it up</p>
<p>“it’s a pity that you can’t say the same.”</p>
<p>Your trying, and that&#8217;s nice.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll allow you the fun of &#8220;the last word&#8221;, and I&#8217;ll be looking out for that &#8220;broadened perspective&#8221;. Glad you&#8217;re onboard <img src='http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: Charedim Kol Yisroel</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 18:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SARAH -- You&#039;re right, I could have made the &quot;pyschic&quot; part a little less personal. But I WAS addressing an idea. Namely, the idea that reading a short, unattributed blurb  does not give one the right to draw firm conclusions (e.g. Arab drunk driver who injured a Jew). Still, I apologize if you were offended. 

I assure you that I am not a teenager. There&#039;s not much I can do to prove that, other than answering questions about cartoons from the 1980s. Feel free to ask away.

Your accusation about me hiding behind &quot;inflammatory invective&quot; is off base. My posts clearly set out my position and attempt to back it up. I have been insulted far more than I have insulted others (telling you to be a psychic and criticizing someone&#039;s spelling are the only examples that come to mind). If you can find other instances of me &quot;impulsively insulting&quot; others, please post them. Otherwise, shush. I am happy to show you posts calling me not Frum, Conservative, a teenager etc.

Yes, sometimes I am sarcastic. But that doesn&#039;t mean that my reasoning is flawed. You need to do better than that. If you have a reply to my arguments about a specific subject, let&#039;s hear it. Telling me to &quot;stop and think&quot; and &quot;say it like a man&quot; is just empty chest-puffing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SARAH &#8212; You&#8217;re right, I could have made the &#8220;pyschic&#8221; part a little less personal. But I WAS addressing an idea. Namely, the idea that reading a short, unattributed blurb  does not give one the right to draw firm conclusions (e.g. Arab drunk driver who injured a Jew). Still, I apologize if you were offended. </p>
<p>I assure you that I am not a teenager. There&#8217;s not much I can do to prove that, other than answering questions about cartoons from the 1980s. Feel free to ask away.</p>
<p>Your accusation about me hiding behind &#8220;inflammatory invective&#8221; is off base. My posts clearly set out my position and attempt to back it up. I have been insulted far more than I have insulted others (telling you to be a psychic and criticizing someone&#8217;s spelling are the only examples that come to mind). If you can find other instances of me &#8220;impulsively insulting&#8221; others, please post them. Otherwise, shush. I am happy to show you posts calling me not Frum, Conservative, a teenager etc.</p>
<p>Yes, sometimes I am sarcastic. But that doesn&#8217;t mean that my reasoning is flawed. You need to do better than that. If you have a reply to my arguments about a specific subject, let&#8217;s hear it. Telling me to &#8220;stop and think&#8221; and &#8220;say it like a man&#8221; is just empty chest-puffing.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sarah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 04:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Sarah seems to know exactly what happened based on minimal, unattributed information; perhaps she should join the police force, or become a psychic.&quot;

&quot;Charedim&quot; Kol Yisroel- As we have come to expect from your comments, the sarcasm is reeking, and it isn&#039;t pretty. Say your piece like a man, instead of hiding behind inflammatory invective. We have seen a lot of sarcasm and mockery about bloggers in your posts; try addressing ideas, not people.

&quot;If anyone thinks that by refusing to come to a knee-jerk conlusion based on a 6-line story somehow means that I care less about the victims, they’re idiots.&quot;

Throwing insults does not enhance your credibility. And as I noted above, the knee jerk reaction was yours. Suggestion: Stop and think before commenting. Your language suggests that you are a teenager; if that is the case, your sarcasm and impulsive insults to bloggers is more easily understood...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sarah seems to know exactly what happened based on minimal, unattributed information; perhaps she should join the police force, or become a psychic.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Charedim&#8221; Kol Yisroel- As we have come to expect from your comments, the sarcasm is reeking, and it isn&#8217;t pretty. Say your piece like a man, instead of hiding behind inflammatory invective. We have seen a lot of sarcasm and mockery about bloggers in your posts; try addressing ideas, not people.</p>
<p>&#8220;If anyone thinks that by refusing to come to a knee-jerk conlusion based on a 6-line story somehow means that I care less about the victims, they’re idiots.&#8221;</p>
<p>Throwing insults does not enhance your credibility. And as I noted above, the knee jerk reaction was yours. Suggestion: Stop and think before commenting. Your language suggests that you are a teenager; if that is the case, your sarcasm and impulsive insults to bloggers is more easily understood&#8230;</p>
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