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		<title>By: mark levin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mark levin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 13:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Folks, 
I have been in the industry and I could tell you this is normal. If the hotel has a group, it is very NORMAL to allow the facilities ONLY for the group. Whether or not the hotel was smart enough to put that into its contract is another thing?!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks,<br />
I have been in the industry and I could tell you this is normal. If the hotel has a group, it is very NORMAL to allow the facilities ONLY for the group. Whether or not the hotel was smart enough to put that into its contract is another thing?!</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sarah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 12:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;No problem. Now please dont get excited when I quote those same gedolim
who say ‘al todin es chavero ad shtgiya bmikomo’. Can we assume that many of these people who go to hotels Pesach ar e not able to make Yom Tov at home, due to ill health or age?&quot;

Tayereh Nameless, it&#039;s not your fault you&#039;re not reading my posts, which would help you see that I have no problem with anyone going to a hotel for Pesach; the Erev Pesach activity is surely reason enough for anyone to make a mistake. There are so many valid reasons to go; you must be mistaking my post with others (as I did with you before, so now we&#039;re even :).

&quot;Who is the Judge of what is considered ‘balabatish’ or what is considered ‘flaunting’?&quot;

That is true. Each person needs to make their own decisions (consulting Da&#039;as Torah when appropriate), and it is not our job to individually judge others. In general, I think, tznius in materialism is a good thing to discuss and increase awareness. 

Susshow wrote:

&quot;Nameless, and Sarah, you both are very interesting in how you at eac other. It makes for good entertainment. &quot;

Susshow, I guess I&#039;m glad you&#039;re entertained when two thinking people discuss issues such as tznius with materialism- I&#039;m sure you can use the entertainment as a break from Pesach preparation. 

A Kosherin Pesach to all (in all venues!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;No problem. Now please dont get excited when I quote those same gedolim<br />
who say ‘al todin es chavero ad shtgiya bmikomo’. Can we assume that many of these people who go to hotels Pesach ar e not able to make Yom Tov at home, due to ill health or age?&#8221;</p>
<p>Tayereh Nameless, it&#8217;s not your fault you&#8217;re not reading my posts, which would help you see that I have no problem with anyone going to a hotel for Pesach; the Erev Pesach activity is surely reason enough for anyone to make a mistake. There are so many valid reasons to go; you must be mistaking my post with others (as I did with you before, so now we&#8217;re even <img src='http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>&#8220;Who is the Judge of what is considered ‘balabatish’ or what is considered ‘flaunting’?&#8221;</p>
<p>That is true. Each person needs to make their own decisions (consulting Da&#8217;as Torah when appropriate), and it is not our job to individually judge others. In general, I think, tznius in materialism is a good thing to discuss and increase awareness. </p>
<p>Susshow wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;Nameless, and Sarah, you both are very interesting in how you at eac other. It makes for good entertainment. &#8221;</p>
<p>Susshow, I guess I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re entertained when two thinking people discuss issues such as tznius with materialism- I&#8217;m sure you can use the entertainment as a break from Pesach preparation. </p>
<p>A Kosherin Pesach to all (in all venues!)</p>
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		<title>By: susshow</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yenta... You are saying good. I&#039;ll give you My Psak in 3 weeks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yenta&#8230; You are saying good. I&#8217;ll give you My Psak in 3 weeks.</p>
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		<title>By: yenta</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yenta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 02:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are all just yenting away. I want to talk tachlis: I have a shaylah- What if there is a goy in the hotel who becomes a ger IN MIDDLE of pesach. What happens? can he swim? is it a din in the reservation or a din in metzious- that in order to enter pool you must be a YID? I want tachlis,baby!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are all just yenting away. I want to talk tachlis: I have a shaylah- What if there is a goy in the hotel who becomes a ger IN MIDDLE of pesach. What happens? can he swim? is it a din in the reservation or a din in metzious- that in order to enter pool you must be a YID? I want tachlis,baby!</p>
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		<title>By: noshoichis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[noshoichis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[did we forget GOLUS !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>did we forget GOLUS !</p>
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		<title>By: nameless</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nameless]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 22:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;if you have , DONT flaunt&#039;
Your right except for one thing. Who is the Judge of what is considered &#039;balabatish&#039; or what is considered &#039;flaunting&#039;.,? everyone must decide for themselves according to what they have...!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;if you have , DONT flaunt&#8217;<br />
Your right except for one thing. Who is the Judge of what is considered &#8216;balabatish&#8217; or what is considered &#8216;flaunting&#8217;.,? everyone must decide for themselves according to what they have&#8230;!</p>
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		<title>By: note</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[note]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 21:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yakkov Avinu put it very succinctly, &quot;lomo tisrau&quot;.

In other words, if you have, DON&#039;T flaunt it.

Go argue!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yakkov Avinu put it very succinctly, &#8220;lomo tisrau&#8221;.</p>
<p>In other words, if you have, DON&#8217;T flaunt it.</p>
<p>Go argue!</p>
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		<title>By: Chumi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chumi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 21:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am not sure what all the fuss is about.  From a business persepctive what the hotel is doing makes sense.  A couple of summers ago my sister and her family went to Disney World.  They paid full price for park tickets.  At 6pm the park made an annoucement that everyone had to leave because a company had rented out the park from 6pm-9pm.  What about all the people that had purchased tickets believeing they would be there till a night - sorry was the answer.  The park made a buisness decision.  Same thing here, the hotel is just accomodating its guests and reimbursing its members very nicely.  I am not even sure what the issue is.

If you want to discuss whether or not people should be going to hotels and exotic locations, that&#039;s one thing but that&#039;s not what this particular story is about.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure what all the fuss is about.  From a business persepctive what the hotel is doing makes sense.  A couple of summers ago my sister and her family went to Disney World.  They paid full price for park tickets.  At 6pm the park made an annoucement that everyone had to leave because a company had rented out the park from 6pm-9pm.  What about all the people that had purchased tickets believeing they would be there till a night &#8211; sorry was the answer.  The park made a buisness decision.  Same thing here, the hotel is just accomodating its guests and reimbursing its members very nicely.  I am not even sure what the issue is.</p>
<p>If you want to discuss whether or not people should be going to hotels and exotic locations, that&#8217;s one thing but that&#8217;s not what this particular story is about.</p>
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		<title>By: naye kuk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[naye kuk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 19:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[nameless in your posts re. Winston Churchill you wrote that our attempts to integrate causes anti-semitism. Now you seen to be singing a different tune. Please explain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nameless in your posts re. Winston Churchill you wrote that our attempts to integrate causes anti-semitism. Now you seen to be singing a different tune. Please explain.</p>
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		<title>By: DrYidd</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DrYidd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 17:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[bklynmom Says: 

&quot;To receive one week extended membership to make up for 3 days sounds more than fair.&quot; 

However, if i am a repeat or permanent member, as many may be, the value of the &quot;free&quot; week is minimal.

&quot;fox&quot; is right.  I would add that the Ramban at the beginning of Kedoshim  may be quoted more often than practised.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bklynmom Says: </p>
<p>&#8220;To receive one week extended membership to make up for 3 days sounds more than fair.&#8221; </p>
<p>However, if i am a repeat or permanent member, as many may be, the value of the &#8220;free&#8221; week is minimal.</p>
<p>&#8220;fox&#8221; is right.  I would add that the Ramban at the beginning of Kedoshim  may be quoted more often than practised.</p>
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