Comments on: WATCH: Tashbar Cheder In Williamsburg Holds ‘Anti-Zionist Demonstration’ In The Classroom

By: About Time

About Time — Fri, 15 May 2015 18:55:48 +0000

Meet the Satmar Hassidim Planning a Zionist Community

By Gil Ronen
First Publish: 5/3/2015,

The Satmar Hassidic sect is infamous for its anti-Zionist creed, but according to a weekend exposé by Zvika Klein of Makor Rishon & NRG, a small group of the hassidim in New York City is secretly planning to make aliyah and establish a Zionist agricultural community.

The organization is named “Zoreah – Hassidim for Settling the Land of Israel” and includes mostly Satmar hassidim, as well as some hassidim from other dynasties. They were all raised to hate Zionism and the state of Israel, and some of them even attend anti-Israel protests to this day. But they all decided, after deep study, that making aliyah should be their main goal in life.

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Instead, the hassid said – they are opting for an approach to their dream that is gradual – “like everything having to do with the Redemption.”

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By: MDshweks

MDshweks — Fri, 15 May 2015 14:29:00 +0000

I guess the Novominsker Rebbe challenging Obama a few days ago also is trying to make trouble for Yidden in the US… How crazy!

By: MDshweks

MDshweks — Fri, 15 May 2015 14:11:46 +0000

Kvetcher: “They are entitled to their Shitah”…

Is that so? – No they’re aren’t entitled. They’re entitled not to recognize the state, but they aren’t entitled to call anyone who disagrees as Kofer, Tomei etc. and to accuse every action of theirs as evil.

These guys don’t believe that “people are entitled to their Shitah”. We do. Do we go demonstrate and degrade them in public for causing the draft law by not voting, or for all the Chilul Hashem they do?

And what you said that some aren’t that extreme, well yes, a lot of them don’t want their kids involved etc. but the “one track mind” syndrome gripps them all…

By: Searchin234

Searchin234 — Fri, 15 May 2015 06:24:38 +0000

To clarify to MD and the others who don’t understand what the kid on the video means.
Zionism is the epitome of kochi votzi beyadi. They believe that WE can protect all the Jews. Jews can’t survive outside of Israel since they don’t have an army to protect them. Hashem is not in the picture. This is kefirah. (I don’t think Neyanyahu is a Rasha for believing this since he is a Tinok shenishba probably.)
This school of thought of these people take it one step further and believe that Zionists instigate these types of tragedies so that more Jews can come to Israel so we can protect them and so we can have a stronger state. (Sacrifice a few Jews so we can save many Jews). This was done during the times of the Holocaust (See the book Perfidy by Ben Hecht).
It could be that the Zionists have changed since then, They don’t believe anything has changed. (I’m sure many people still think the same about Germany, that they are still all Nazis).

By: MDshweks

MDshweks — Fri, 15 May 2015 03:23:50 +0000

I see a lot of un-true Torah defenders.

Look, you guys are extreme, black & white etc. You don’t use your seichel.

Just because you “don’t support the Medina” doesn’t mean Netanyahu is happy that people died, or that he challanged Obama on Iran in order to make trouble for American Jews – get with the program! Don’t be a one-track narrow mind!

and it’s not just a theory being discussed, it’s what they teach their children as a fact!

When one becomes a one-track mind he looses the ability to see how he himself is guilty of the same faults: These guys are “happy” when yidden get hurt in EY so they can point a finger… and ‘Hisgorus BaUmos’ is somehow only a problem when Zionists do it, but when it’s done to your American neighbors, and demonstrating with American enemies, somehow that’s not ‘Hisgorus BaUmos’…

By: Yagel Libi

Yagel Libi — Thu, 14 May 2015 20:10:44 +0000

Don’t worry kid, ‘Netanyoohee’ wouldn’t dream of speaking in your name.

And shouldn’t that be ‘Nesanyoohee’? I guess that even NK/Satmars are slowly becoming crypto-Zionists .

By: lbj

lbj — Thu, 14 May 2015 20:09:25 +0000

the words of “hakatan” on this matter is the toras emes of all the great sages of israel asher kol beis yisroel nishonim aleyhem. anyone who supports the state of israel has their allegiances farkrumpt our allegiance is to the torah and the ribbono shel olam, not chas vesholom any bosor v’dom

By: tzipor

tzipor — Thu, 14 May 2015 19:50:02 +0000

you know YW only posted this just to get a reaction against the anti-zionists. that’s the real shame. and y’all took the bait. They just love to stir the pot.

By: chachom

chachom — Thu, 14 May 2015 19:33:17 +0000

gfrankel: You need to brush up on your humor if you think that silly “story” is funny. A person needs to know Hatikva in order to know zionism is against Judaism?

Long Island Yid: Torah True Jews have nothing to do with the NK.

HaKatan : Well said.

By: chachom

chachom — Thu, 14 May 2015 19:27:35 +0000

computerbubby: Eretz Yisroel should spit you out and have you land in Cairo, the land of your erev rav forefathers, the 20% that stayed there after Makkos Choshech.