Comments on: WATCH: Israeli Police Prevent Jews From Trying To Ascend The Har HaBayis

By: yeshivamun

yeshivamun — Tue, 02 Jun 2015 19:36:08 +0000

#10 you foolish person nothing to do with kiddush hashem or chillul hashem, until mashiach comes we are not allowed to go there and it wont help getting rid of there horrible places, it’s not called doing a sacrifice by going up there to try and make it only for jewish people and not arabs if it’s questionable if we are even allowed to be there!

By: purply

purply — Mon, 01 Jun 2015 18:44:36 +0000

#10 u are an outright apikores!!

By: american_yerushalmi

american_yerushalmi — Sat, 30 May 2015 21:02:38 +0000

#15 JoJo — So you think that whether something is a Kiddush Hashem or Chillul Hashem is NOT a halachic issue? And you are not ashamed to write that you have the hubris to declare “to the face of the gadol hador himself” (!) or to “anyone else who would oppose you,” that YOU will teach HIM (or THEM) a lesson in protecting Hashem’s honor. I don’t think we are talking about the same Beis HaMikdash, Har HaBayis, or even the same Torah. I cannot understand how such insolence is tolerated on YWN.

By: Yosi7

Yosi7 — Fri, 29 May 2015 19:55:58 +0000

No Jew should Ch’V go up to Har Habayis. The gedolim have been clear that it is assur. BUT, every single Gadol has said that it is a safek issur Kores. You can read rav Chaim Kanievsky’s letter. Not one said that it is mamish Kores (like the comments above said). In addition, Rav Elyashiv Zatzla was MUCH less concerned about Kores which he thought was not really an issue in the places they have Jews going now on Har Habayis, but rather he was concerned that it would provoke the Arabs.

By: Rebbe Yid

Rebbe Yid — Fri, 29 May 2015 18:34:31 +0000

How many Jewish lives were lost because of Jews moving to Europe? Probably a lot fewer than Jews going up to Har Habayis. Not that it’s mutar, but I’m just saying, not everything that Zionists do is ossur because of “it endangers Jewish lives”.

By: JojoNYC

JojoNYC — Thu, 28 May 2015 17:53:53 +0000

@American— I don’t claim to know halacha better than the poskim. I would certainly not say it is permissible. However, this is a separate issue. Muslims are up there all the time. I say we need to keep attempting to go up in order to draw as much attention as possible to the issue. There is one possible way this issue is gonna end… with a Beit Hamikdash on the HH. This is exactly how we bring this reality closer. We keep pushing and we send people up and destroy that monstrosity up there and clean up God’s house. if Jews can’t go up, fine. We will send gentiles who are paid. But we should not accept this reality. it sickens me to see those dirty arabs up there playing soccer where Beit Hamikdash should be. That much I will argue to the face of the gadol hador himself and to anyone else who would oppose me. This is not a halachic issue. It is a Kidush hashem issue.

By: american_yerushalmi

american_yerushalmi — Thu, 28 May 2015 14:18:14 +0000

The ongoing dichotomy between YWN’s reportage and the disclaimers on the matter of ascending the Har Habayis is likely creating confusion in some peoples’ minds, particularly Jews living in chutz la’aretz. This is not the first time that your article seems supportive and/or sympathetic toward those who go there, while a meek and mild disclaimer citing the opinion of the Gedolei Haposkim appears almost as an afterthought. I assure you the Gedolei Torah are not apologetic about their psak halacha.
And to all the commenters here who think they understand Torah better than the Gedolei Hador, well, I have news fo you. You do not care for Hashem’s honor more than the Gedolim do. If they fobid going up to the Har Habayis, don’t be so impudent as to try to second guess them or to put a different spin on their psak halacha. YWN is a CHAREIDI WEBSITE and it not required to “objectively” report things the way you insist they should be (only with complete objectivity, of course). There are plenty of knitted websites that are saying what you like to hear/read. Perhaps those websites are more suitable for you. And in case any of the supporters of ascending the Har Habayis are interested, Rav Kook zt”l also forbade going there.

By: lbj

lbj — Thu, 28 May 2015 12:17:10 +0000

dont u know the asei of tzionus is doche a lav sheyesh bo kores

By: lbj

lbj — Thu, 28 May 2015 12:15:30 +0000

threy have a specialce upstairs for tzioni rabbis. riskin stav and the rest of them

By: dlkanoi

dlkanoi — Thu, 28 May 2015 12:14:45 +0000

It’s quite obvious that does who go and permit to go onto the HH have a political agenda not a halachic one. And besides it is unnecessary provocation which has cost jewish live in the recent past and may choliloh do so again in the future.
YNet is completely right to follow the ruling of the authorative gedolim and state it IS AN ISSUR KARRES. Previous and current Gedolim have also studied the subject but objectively and ruled it IS AN ISSUR KARRES.