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	<title>Comments on: VIDEO &amp; PHOTOS: Emanuel Children Visit Prison to Wish Dads a Gut Shabbos</title>
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		<title>By: msseeker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[msseeker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 22:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[frumimaof3, whom do you expect me to believe, you or my lying eyes?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>frumimaof3, whom do you expect me to believe, you or my lying eyes?</p>
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		<title>By: Reality check</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reality check]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 21:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Taking a page from our &#039;cousins&#039; - use the children to advance the agenda, radicalize them, and eventually get them to offer themselves as &quot;shahids&quot; in the cause.  Once you go down that path, you never can be sure where it will end....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taking a page from our &#8216;cousins&#8217; &#8211; use the children to advance the agenda, radicalize them, and eventually get them to offer themselves as &#8220;shahids&#8221; in the cause.  Once you go down that path, you never can be sure where it will end&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: RG</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 19:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To #5 -

I understand what you are saying, but as I live in Emanuel, it is impossible to shelter the children like that - 43 fathers all leaving at once makes a huge impression in such a small place. Several of these men are teachers in the Chassidic school. You can use your idea for isolated incidents, but not one on such a large scale which affects a community so broadly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To #5 -</p>
<p>I understand what you are saying, but as I live in Emanuel, it is impossible to shelter the children like that &#8211; 43 fathers all leaving at once makes a huge impression in such a small place. Several of these men are teachers in the Chassidic school. You can use your idea for isolated incidents, but not one on such a large scale which affects a community so broadly.</p>
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		<title>By: frumimaof3</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 19:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[msseeker, don&#039;t start about that woman. There were CHAREIDI doctor&#039;s against her to. I also know of someone who SAW what went on.. SOME ppl are actually guilty of crimes!! 

She was not prosecuted because she was chareidi. She was prosecuted b/c there were witnesses and a VIDEO to the abuse she commited.. Chareidim are not all Tzaddikim and there are quite a few who dress the part but are in NO WAY chareidi on this inside.. 
This case is NOTHING like that one.. I for one am looking into sending my daughter to a less funded BY so that the state can&#039;t have control over my daughter&#039;s chinuch.
The lesson to learn here is to have more Private schooling so that we can control the chinuch of our kids.

It&#039;s like letting a nut case control your child&#039;s chinuch!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>msseeker, don&#8217;t start about that woman. There were CHAREIDI doctor&#8217;s against her to. I also know of someone who SAW what went on.. SOME ppl are actually guilty of crimes!! </p>
<p>She was not prosecuted because she was chareidi. She was prosecuted b/c there were witnesses and a VIDEO to the abuse she commited.. Chareidim are not all Tzaddikim and there are quite a few who dress the part but are in NO WAY chareidi on this inside..<br />
This case is NOTHING like that one.. I for one am looking into sending my daughter to a less funded BY so that the state can&#8217;t have control over my daughter&#8217;s chinuch.<br />
The lesson to learn here is to have more Private schooling so that we can control the chinuch of our kids.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like letting a nut case control your child&#8217;s chinuch!!!</p>
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		<title>By: RG</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 18:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These names of the Sephardic families whose girls attended the Beis Yaakov Chasidi of Emanuel are: Elmaliach (Moroccan), Beit Yaakov (Persian), Meirav (Egyptian), Naimi, and his son, also Naimi (Iraqi I think),  Biton (Moroccan, the Rosh Kollel), Tubul (Moroccan-Kurdistani), Levi (Yemenite), Klein-Hallali (Hungarian-Iraqi), Baruch, Avraham (Yemenite), Lang, Vagshal. Berber is part Persian. Weisfish, part Moroccan. Zaide, part Old Yishuv Edut HaMizrach. Etc.
Many of the Slonimers hail from the ancient Jewish community of Tiberias, of whom some of the Slonimer yeshiva students, who came to study in Tiberias during the late 1800&#039;s, married local Jewish women. That is one reason that the Slonimer schools teach in Hebrew, not Yiddish as their bubbies spoke Hebrew (and Arabic).
 
Emanuel is physically and psychologically far away for many Israelis. An unlikely place to visit or explore, it was an easy target to lie about.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These names of the Sephardic families whose girls attended the Beis Yaakov Chasidi of Emanuel are: Elmaliach (Moroccan), Beit Yaakov (Persian), Meirav (Egyptian), Naimi, and his son, also Naimi (Iraqi I think),  Biton (Moroccan, the Rosh Kollel), Tubul (Moroccan-Kurdistani), Levi (Yemenite), Klein-Hallali (Hungarian-Iraqi), Baruch, Avraham (Yemenite), Lang, Vagshal. Berber is part Persian. Weisfish, part Moroccan. Zaide, part Old Yishuv Edut HaMizrach. Etc.<br />
Many of the Slonimers hail from the ancient Jewish community of Tiberias, of whom some of the Slonimer yeshiva students, who came to study in Tiberias during the late 1800&#8242;s, married local Jewish women. That is one reason that the Slonimer schools teach in Hebrew, not Yiddish as their bubbies spoke Hebrew (and Arabic).</p>
<p>Emanuel is physically and psychologically far away for many Israelis. An unlikely place to visit or explore, it was an easy target to lie about.</p>
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		<title>By: crazykanoiy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[crazykanoiy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the sake of the children do not torment them by bringing them to prison to see their fathers behind bars. Why make them cry? Why traumatize them? Keep them home and tell them that Tatty had to go away and will be home in 2 weeks. Many Fathers in Eretz Yisrael work in the US and commute every two weeks or so. The children do not have to suffer more than they are suffering already.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the sake of the children do not torment them by bringing them to prison to see their fathers behind bars. Why make them cry? Why traumatize them? Keep them home and tell them that Tatty had to go away and will be home in 2 weeks. Many Fathers in Eretz Yisrael work in the US and commute every two weeks or so. The children do not have to suffer more than they are suffering already.</p>
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		<title>By: msseeker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[msseeker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 16:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now are you people finally ready to cast doubt on the “Munchhausen Mother” fiasco? Are you willing to realize that that was a bilbul, plain and simple, just like the bilbul on the Emmanuel parents? 

Yeah, I know you’ve forgotten already, but this poor mother, an upbeat and gentle woman whom I had the pleasure (and heartache) to meet several times in house arrest, has not. She has been cut off from her children by this Sdomer court for the next five years for the sole crime of realizing that the doctors are using her child as a guinea pig. 

Who knows, perhaps if everyone would have come out in defense of this needlessly and heartlessly torn family it wouldn’t have come to this. 

Same goes for the Valles case, where the father was dragged through the mud in order to prevent him from pointing his finger against the doctors who let his child die because it was only a Charedi little scum. This poor avrech “confessed” to a crime he never commited in order to avoid Yenty’s ordeal. Yenty stood strong, refusing to “confess”, and now she is paying the price. She is paralyzed from her waist down from the Epidural she received during the birth of her youngest child (perhaps by evil design, nothing is above those monsters), and she had to fight for her right to go for therapy because the doctors said she must be pretending(!) to be paralyzed. This is only a drop in the bucket of pain and abuse that this woman is going through. 

The Chofetz Chaim said Communism was a punishment for not standing up with mesiras nefesh against the gezairah of the Cantonists. Will we be able to say ידינו לא שפכו את הדם הזה? Everyone who gave a hand, or even the benefit of the doubt, to these reshaim, will have to come face to face with this מדינה של גיהנם, perhaps through the lens of the Emanuel parsha.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now are you people finally ready to cast doubt on the “Munchhausen Mother” fiasco? Are you willing to realize that that was a bilbul, plain and simple, just like the bilbul on the Emmanuel parents? </p>
<p>Yeah, I know you’ve forgotten already, but this poor mother, an upbeat and gentle woman whom I had the pleasure (and heartache) to meet several times in house arrest, has not. She has been cut off from her children by this Sdomer court for the next five years for the sole crime of realizing that the doctors are using her child as a guinea pig. </p>
<p>Who knows, perhaps if everyone would have come out in defense of this needlessly and heartlessly torn family it wouldn’t have come to this. </p>
<p>Same goes for the Valles case, where the father was dragged through the mud in order to prevent him from pointing his finger against the doctors who let his child die because it was only a Charedi little scum. This poor avrech “confessed” to a crime he never commited in order to avoid Yenty’s ordeal. Yenty stood strong, refusing to “confess”, and now she is paying the price. She is paralyzed from her waist down from the Epidural she received during the birth of her youngest child (perhaps by evil design, nothing is above those monsters), and she had to fight for her right to go for therapy because the doctors said she must be pretending(!) to be paralyzed. This is only a drop in the bucket of pain and abuse that this woman is going through. </p>
<p>The Chofetz Chaim said Communism was a punishment for not standing up with mesiras nefesh against the gezairah of the Cantonists. Will we be able to say ידינו לא שפכו את הדם הזה? Everyone who gave a hand, or even the benefit of the doubt, to these reshaim, will have to come face to face with this מדינה של גיהנם, perhaps through the lens of the Emanuel parsha.</p>
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		<title>By: Trying my best</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trying my best]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 14:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An incredible Kiddush Shem Shmayim.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An incredible Kiddush Shem Shmayim.</p>
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		<title>By: bestbubby</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bestbubby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 13:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, so sad. These children now know the Meseiros Nefesh we all should have when it comes to following one&#039;s Rebbe/Rav. We don&#039;t get to pick &amp; choose what we do if we are Chassidim.

But this is a terrible thing to happen. How could any judge do it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, so sad. These children now know the Meseiros Nefesh we all should have when it comes to following one&#8217;s Rebbe/Rav. We don&#8217;t get to pick &amp; choose what we do if we are Chassidim.</p>
<p>But this is a terrible thing to happen. How could any judge do it?</p>
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		<title>By: anonymrs</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anonymrs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 13:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wow....so sad]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow&#8230;.so sad</p>
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