showjoe:
“also, from the way i see it, to disrespect a king back in ????’s day was a much bigger disrespect and severe than it is now.”
Not in the Torah’s eyes. The Torah’s views do not change.
(I don’t know how the Torah sees unqualified rulers or those who seized power and do not rule by the will of the people.)
catch yourself:
Nevertheless, you are not permitted to speak disrespectfully of that person. You may not like the fact that a certain individual holds office, but at the very least, his office demands respect. The higher and more important his office, the more this is so.[…]
The time has come for the Torah community to eschew all derogatory references to government officials and political figures as anathema to the ideology set forth in the Torah.
A: Source, please (I’ll deal with Pharaoh below).
B: Assuming you have a source, what are the necessary levels of respect you are referring to, and which offices demand them?
Even ??? ???? was commanded by ???”? to speak respectfully to ????. (Emphasis added.)
Speaking to someone is different than speaking about them.
That someone was “to be addressed with respect” does not mean, or even imply, that “we are not to speak of him in a deprecating manner”.
As an aside, you do not do your children a favor when you inculcate them with hatred, racism and bigotry.
I think that’s important enough to have its own thread. (Of course, you’re assuming the adults know that their attitudes
comprise unjustified hatred, racism, and bigotry…)