Hi. I am back
torah umada vchulo,
Regarding that point We have the maharil chemdas shlomo artzos chaim kli chemda olas taimd etc. saying it IS possible to identify it. And also we have the Chavos yair, Shiltay Hagiborim, Toefes Haream, Yaavetz, Minchas Ani, Reb Shamshon Refoel Hirsh (and tiferes yisrael) who do identify it.
Also there is another point. I will copy from something I wrote in Hebrew
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Regarding the second point, that we only do mitzvos because we have a mesorah you should know this is not the tayne of brisk, and has nothing to with it. To say it eloquently it is your ‘own methodology of understanding Torah concepts and textual statements’ But i think my Rosh yeshivas example stands here. Yidden didn’t do mitzvos hateluyos bearetz for years…..
Regarding Rav Chaim’s opinion see an earlier post on page seven from Zvei dinim where he posted a link of a recording of rav chaim saying
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