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I am not frum from birth and it really disappoints me to see how a lot of Yidden have fallen. How so many people try to debate and get of out doing mitzvos for Hashem. It says i think in the 3rd or 4th perek in Mesilas Yeshurim how foolish the people are who say ” I don’t need to be the biggest tzadik with a front row seat in Gan Eden as long as I am not a rasha in gehenem.” and when it comes to such a person regarding a gashmiusdike thing he just can’t stand that yener has a better car or house then him or something else but really the ikur is yener velt and the only way to get higher there is through mitzvos in this world. I have been from for over 7 years and B”H have been learning the whole time. all of you who are defending the way these women dress should be ashamed of your selves. The real erliche yidden everyone usually looks at as “extreme” and people look up to these people who don’t do the rutzen Hashem. luckily I live in a chaissdish community and things are not as bad as they are in the other more americanized modern communities but we have are problems too and don’t say I don’t know about other types of Yiddden besides for Chasidim because I have seen them too and became Chasidish by choice after experiencing the other groups because I was searching for real authentic Yiddishkeit and B”H have found it. don’t get me wrong there are very erliche yidden by the litvish also like Rav Elyashuv ZT”L who served the Aibishter 24/7.