My wife’s great aunt used to drive R Abramsky to give his shiur in bayit vegan. They were not related.
He sat in the back,but it was hard for him so he sat in the front.he said ” der Rov meg dos tohn”
Someone from the shiur stopped coming,as he felt it wasn’t “passt”.the Rov’s reaction was – his loss.
Could be its different when the combined ages of the people involved totals over 150.