DY: “I think we need to distinguish between the issur l’chatchilah of ein m’vatlin issur, and the issur b’dieved (you’re correct that I misused the term “not batel”, because for some it’s muttar, but the effect on the mevatel and the mi shenisbatel bishvilo is that it’s treated as not batel)”
You still do not comprehend Ein Mevatlin. Even in a case where it is Assur b’DiEved it is merely a Knas and NOT a continuation of the original Issur.
I reread it 5 times, but the remainder of your post is incoherent.