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Matisyohu28
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nameless – ok, so does that mean we should forget about shabbos too? or when we try to be mechanech our children, we would ONLY follow the amudim????? nonsense.

we should emphasize our efforts based on..the bais hamikdash? where is that yesod found, anywhere, or just in your negius?

To be mazber your kasha, since that is all it was, even though you stated it as if you’re a rishon or something, every dor has its nisyonos – the era of the bayis rishon, had avodah zara that we cannot fathom today(anshei knesses hagedolah were mevatel the yatzer hora for avodah zara that was so hard back then, now it’s normal level), not to mention sinos chinum and the rest of the causes of the churban – however, the causes of other calamities, as documented in the rishonim and achronim, were all different – why? each dor has its nisayon. Our nisyonos today are tznius, secularism, pritzus, assimilation, taiva, money, and others – however the fact that a previous generation had a difficulty in one area hs no reflection on its importance of reinforcement in a different tekufah.

It’s hot. the women need to live with it and understand that their momentary discomfort is not the important thing here – sephardim had it much hotter in the middle east, and they didnt complain, they followed the ratzon hashem..heat was not even a factor in their deciding what to wear, or if it was, it had no reflection on tznius – and you’re going to compare that to our current state? It’s hot – so that means a ‘frum’ woman can become a walking micshol, causing avieros that are tantamount to the murder of one’s children, breakin shalom bayis, causing hirhurm – need I say more? kavannah to be immodest is not the whole of the inyan – the end result is immodesty, whether or not the woman wants to be a prutzah or not – if it looks like a prutzah, in this case, it is.

when a person comes up to bais din shel mayla, all the excuses fade. this is one of them – no one ever died of dressing modest, and women have no reason to be outside all day anyway; kol kevudah bas melech penima.