Reply To: Is anti-Zionism the sin of the spies?

29, you are correct insofar as Hashem only meant his open miracles to be temporary whereas the liberals want their programs to be permanent. It is impossible to compare His intent with their intent. I am sorry that I upset you so much. I thought that just as you understand that calling Hashem a king does not imply any comparison to a human king so to using this metaphor (“A metaphor is a figure of speech that refers to something as being the same as another thing for rhetorical effect” – Wikipedia) did not imply any literal comparison c”v. I hope that this makes shalom between us and closes the subject.

Popa, to which chachamim are you referring? I have heard chachamim who agree.

NeutiquamErro,

The Wikipedia defines “state” as “an organized political community living under a single system of government”. This is obviously not the same as the government or the constitution. If not for “copy and paste”I would instruct you to write “The government is not the same as the state” 1,000 times.

The State of Israel is in conformance with the Halacha as there is a Torah obligation ot have a state in EY as the Ramban rules in his sefer hamitzvot (mitzvot that Rambam “forgot”). The government does some things in conformance with Halacha and some things in violation of Halacha. So do many people. Among the worst are those who are motzi shem ra on the State and even worse are those who do so in the gentile media and even worse are those who make common cause with the PLO and Iran.