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577 wrote: “you haven’t showed how my original logic was a boich svara”

The boich svara was when you wrote: “So a husband and wife are like one body. So of course a husband’s body is like his wife… they are like one body!” This svara is without ANY m’kor.

You disagree that Tosfos can be a raya that ishto k’gufo means that only the wife is like the husbands guf, but not the reverse. To you it is poshut that they are one body and each other’s guf.

As my husband would say, adarabah, apparently THAT is a shaylah discussed in the Bais HaOtzer by Reb Yossef Engel referenced earlier. On close examination, HE is the one who equates that Tosfos as a rayah to explain ishto k’gufo. A position you seem to disagree with!

Reb Yossef Engel also brings a kabbalistic pirush that the wmoan is like the guf and the husband is like the neshama – therefore, to the man-neshama, his wife is k’gufo, but clearly not the reverse, that the husband is k’gufa.

If you have a Bar Ilan program you can search further on ishto k’gufo for others who discuss this topic:

Me’iri Sanhedrin 28b in the name of Yesh Omrim that “ishto k’gufo” is specific that the wife is like the guf of husband but NOT reverse – not like your boich sevra that they are one body and the husband is like the woman’s body; See also Mordichai simon 697 and B.Y. and Bach s. 33.

(I need the Bar Illan but my husband knows these mkoros off the cuff!)