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Lilmod Ulelamaid
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Yekke- when I used the term “deliberately”, I didn’t mean what you are talking about. What you are talking about is someone giving into his yetzer hora. While it’s technically “b’maizid”, on some level it’s not. I’m pretty sure that there is somewhere (I can’t remember where) where such an aveira is referred to as “shogeig” in the sense that the person did not really WANT to sin, they just had a hard time controlling their yetzer hara since as you wrote, we are not perfect and we are all works in progress.

I had been talking about people who sin deliberately – who don’t care and aren’t even trying. That seemed to be what you were talking about when you referred to your friends as reshaim.