“I’m glad there is someone else here who realizes it.”
Im fairly certain everybody realizes that.
“not if you understand what being judgmental means and doesn’t mean”
Im looking forward to your explanation that saying other posters “are…not very bright,…” Isnt judgmental.
“Joseph wrote that we should daven to be killed al kiddush Hashem. He did not write that we should daven to have a misah meshunah. ”
Um, by definition being killed is a misah meshunah
“Are you trying to say now that you think that dying al Kiddush Hashem has to be a misah meshuna? You wrote above that you didn’t think so.”
Youve made the same mistake a few times now. Dying and killed are not synonyms. Please dont use them interchangeably.
To be clear a person can die al kidush hashem without a misah meshunah. A person cant be killed Al kidush Hashem (or any other reason) without amisah meshunah.
We arent talking about dying al kidush Hashem so I conceded the point (without even fully knowing what it means). As to what he means youd have to ask DY, Id be happy to share mu understanding if he is unavailable to comment.
“I wasn’t trying to defend his position”
you are. you are reinterpreting his position and a tefial. I dont understand why
As to his person. Yes I get that, and while a good mailah. Frankly you are being a bit naive.
“And for that, someone needs to find a reliable source that explains it.”
I didnt look at mefarshim, though Im sure there are many. how about e was trying to console his talmidim for whom it mustve been quite traumatic to have to watch.
Put it htis way (and granted this is conjecture) if in the middle of the torture the Romans had said would you like to go home, dos anyone seriously beleive he wouldve said no thanks I ve been waiting for this.
I brought Rabbi Chninya Ben Teradyon as an example.
Im not sure how Joseph understands the terrible calamity that befell Chananya Mishael and Azarya, as well as Daniel when they were deprived from dying al kidush Hashem