@wtp thanks for clarifying a reason. I was shocked I don’t know anyone who got cosmetic plastic surgery, and my husband would have been equally surprised at the question.
So I was thinking maybe these values come from watching movies, but my brother who used to watch would never elect plastic surgery and askance at anyone who would.
So would my friend who does watch although she is very into fitness.
Even my not frum and non Jewish relatives wouldn’t elect such a thing – they have pretty much despaired of finding a spouse and would consider themselves lucky to get married
The only place I could think of who obsesses with looks to such a degree is the ultimate of klipa world of Hollywood and I find it sad that Torah yidden could stoop lower on values than a typical goy.
So thanks for the lchaf zechus – although those girls must feel awfully insecure which should be addressed as well. And what’s the lchaf zechus for a man who would get angry at not knowing?