Keith
A few points
“So we must be honest and accept that this is all theater, designed to make us feel good and not designed to stop shootings.”
No, you must be honest that there has to be a way to limit (though likley not “stop” these shootings if most western countries are able to.
I am not saying I Know how to do it, but the ease of gun purchase more than likely has somehting to do with it.
“We also need to recognize that any law change affects only law abiding citizens, not criminals.”
Like most arguments from the “pro gun” side this is often repeated but makes little sense. Just becasue people may not follow a law isnt a reason not to legislate. We dont say let murder be legal since clearly murderers dont care. We dont say lets sell explosives since anyway terorits can blow us up if the ywant to.
“So if you are serious about gun deaths you are talking about government seizure of all guns,”
As DY says Ok. youve convinced me. though I dont think that is relestic, if we can stop the few from rifles why arent those lives saved worth it. (If we cant save those, that is a different argument) but arguing that only some would be saved so it just doesnt make sense is absurd.
“the vast majority, almost 3/4, are suicides. So we are not talking about those.”
Wait, why on earth not?
“he vast majority of the remainder are gang-on-gang or similar (criminal on criminal) shootings”
those are bad too! as are the bysanders caught in cross fire
“Televisions (falling on people – actual FBI statistics).”
Done! you’ve convinced me I’m on board with demanding televisions that are placed above peoples heads be properly secured.
This terrible scurgae plaguing AMerica does have to stop
““Bump stocks” is a technique to obtain rapid fire. There is no special stock necessary.”
you are confusing “Bump stocks” with “bump fire” Bump fire is a technique, it isnt easy to perform and it hurts. A “bump stock” is a device to make bump-firing easier. Why would we allow easy access to a device that makes a more deadly technique easier to perform? Again of course criminals can obtain illegal devices, they can fasion them on their own, but why make it easier.
Yousef wants to rent a truck pack it with ammonium nitrate and nitroglycerin. I thought Of a great marketing idea. He wants to do it anyway, so why don’t I open a “Bombs-r- us” we can sell him a truck packed with explosives, perhaps a map to some local landmarks. Maybe for extra money we can offer tips which garages are less guarded. After all he can obtain these things anyway, so lets make some money?