CS: “Another double standard here is that you state The Rebbe isn’t a good enough source for you/ you want to see where the Rebbe bases it… But the chofetz chaim is a great source…
… And the same way its unthinkable to say the chofetz chaim isn’t good enough for me, it should be the same for the Rebbe.,…
Its insulting to display biases so openly and try to guise it as intellectual discussion.
…applying double standards doesn’t give me much hope for fair learned discussion.”
After all these threads and all the debates you still don’t get it! MANY or us (certainly not all) do not accept that the Lubavicher rebbe is a valid leader of Klal Yisroel, and he is certainly not a leader of the caliber of the Chofetz Chaim.
I understand that you don’t agree with that, but that, to your probable great dismay, is what many of us believe. Therefore, it is not a matter of bias. It’s a matter of whom we consider gedolim and whom not.
Please answer the following truthfully: Do you believe that the opinions of Rav Shach, who was revered as the ultimate Gadol Hador by tens of thousands of bnei Torah, carry the same weight as the opinions of the Lubavicher rebbe? The truthful answer of any card-carrying lubavicher is a resounding “No!” Why not? Because you/they don’t consider him a real leader of Klal Yisroel despite what tens of thousands of others think.
Well, it’s the same here. Many people in this forum, and in the frum world at large (including ALL of those tens of thousands of Rav Shach believers) don’t consider the Lubachiver rebbe a real leader of Klal Yisroel. They – and yes, I am one of them – consider that despite his great knowledge and charisma, he was wrong in many of his views, a number of which are messing up his followers and bringing some to views and actions that are close to apikorsus R”L.
I have to say that I am absolutely astounded that a person of your intellectual caliber – you are clearly far from stupid – just doesn’t realize that we don’t believe what you do, and that therefore the “proofs”, sources and quotes that you keep supplying from your rebbe will not convince us.