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Neville ChaimBerlin
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“they, as an unfortunate side outcome, have much worse tznius issues than we have. But I think I’ll leave it at that unless you want me to hint further.”

Of course we want you to hint more. If you leave it open-ended like that we’ll assume all kinds of crazy stuff.

I don’t really want to get into the tznius discussion as I’ve never really seen the problem most people are talking about. Real, frum Lubavitch women seem to keep the same standards as Litvish women. As far as I can tell, the only way people are claiming they’re worse is by including “Modern Lubavitchers” in the calculation. I’ve never found it fair to exclude Ashkenazi MO from the Litvish world, but then include MO Chabad when comparing. I’m sure there’s a name for that logical fallacy in debating, but I can’t think of it.

I know for a fact that some Chabad schools have maximum sheitel length requirements for the mothers of potential students. They also require strict phone filters. So, parts of their community are trying to combat these issues. The point is not whether or not they are successful, the point is that these problems are not b’shittah. They are most likely an unfortunate side-effect of being a kiruv movement.

To be clear, though, I’m not backing down from what I said earlier. The other things we discussed are problematic things Chabad believes that are for sure b’shittah.