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@🍫Syag Lchochma

I looked for those online pictures you mentioned and there is no question it is not a sheital. These pictures are old, none are recent, but they are definitely her hair.

Doesn’t seem clear to me that it wasn’t a sheitul. Just because she wears a hat doesn’t mean that she wasn’t wearing a sheitul, like the minheg is by some, to wear a double covering.

“So now I’m confused… neither of your answers state that she did in fact cover her hair. Does that mean she didn’t? Or that you don’t know? And what do you mean that hardly anyone saw her? Wasn’t their house open with constant streams of people as is the case with Gedolim, great rabbeim and people who live for the kehilla? Didn’t they have hundreds of shabbos guests? Didn’t the females who where desperate for Brachos and chizuk find a place at her door?”

Seems like you don’t know anything about lubavitche and the Rebbe. Don’t blame you.

What I’m saying is that, I don’t know 100% that she did wear a sheitul, because I haven’t spoken to people that took care of the house or the people that spened time with her. But I will be pretty surprised if she didn’t, because when a chosen and kalah used to asked the Rebbe to be mesader kidushin at their chasunah, the Rebbe gave two tenoyim, 1. The chosen has to have a beard (not to touch his beard). And the kalah will wear a sheitul.
So I will be surprised if he didn’t have the rebbitzin where a sheitul. And especially how tzunah the rebbitzin was. But again I don’t know for sure. Just my point is that you can’t say outrageous facts without valid proofs. Not this “online evidence” thing.

@DaasYochid ☕
“I’ve seen pictures. Including on chabad . org.”

Doesn’t seem to me that it’s her hair.

“Sure, because he knew, first hand, that wearing a different kind of covering often leaves the hair partially uncovered. In the famous picture of her, which is on the official Chabad website, she’s not wearing a sheitel. Defending her by saying, “Do you know how much the Rebbe spoke about women waering shietuls?” is really odd when she clearly didn’t (always) wear one.
And btw, I don’t only know this from the internet, but that’s the only evidence I can show you.”

Again it doesn’t seem from any of the pictures, but from where else to you know this from?

@🍫Syag Lchochma
“This seems to have been brought by CS and chossid as “proofs” of the rebbes omniscience, so it makes me wonder if you/they are aware that this is something that we find across many many gedolim and tzaddikim of past and present.”

I fully aware.
Just wondering why people like to deny the fact that the Rebbe made miracles and have ruach hakodesh. When you have thousands of people giving testimony that It happened to them personally.

Btw there was stories that Rebbes sent people to the Rebbe to get brochois.
For example did anyone see the video that went around 2 months ago of Rabbi Y Y Jacobson saying a story about someone going to the satmer Rebbe for a brocha and the satmer Rebbe said that for big problems I send them to the Lubavitcher Rebbe and that’s why he wrote a letter to the Rebbe
He said it without names, but it happened to be with a non Lubavitcher relative of mine.
Did anyone come across it? I know it was also going around the between the non Lubavitchers.

@Neville ChaimBerlin

“For the point about retroactively justifying minhagim, yeah I kind of have to give you that. You brought out examples from Chassidish minhagim, but everyone has this kind of thing. Eg. the fact that Litvish yeshivas don’t have mikvahs b’shittah, the fact that litvish bochrim are clean-shaven b’shittah, the fact that litvish bochrim could go years without saying korbanos b’shittah, etc.”

I personally find it to be a little different.
By the “litvaks” it was finding heteirim for the yeddin that wore nechsal it in certain stuff, for example clean shaving beard, (whether you personally consider it as chumrah, or a plain eisur). Cuz people were copping the goyim, or just made fun of my having a beard, or couldn’t get a job, like it was in the early 1900s in America.
On the other hand regarding not sleeping in a sukkah, this minhag is based on a concept in kabola that their is high oirios shining on the sukkah, מקיפים דבינה, so rabbeim couldn’t fall asleep, or had tzar in the sukkah.

Rebbe still couldn’t understand how is it possible that kabola and niglah clash, like it states in chassidus that it’s one Torah so how could it be bestirah. And what’s the heter for the chassidim which don’t feel these oirios.
So that’s how the Rebbe ties it in with tzar.
If I’m not mistaken the Rebbe also asks, that it doesn’t make sense it’s a kulah, because we see that the rebbiem wore makpit to not even drink a little sip water outside the sukkah, even on shmini etzeres.
So how come they didn’t sleep in the sukkah?.

I didn’t learn the sicha recently but this is what I think personally off hand.