Reply To: The Killing of Nahal Haredi Soldiers and the Anti Draft Protests

Home Forums Controversial Topics The Killing of Nahal Haredi Soldiers and the Anti Draft Protests Reply To: The Killing of Nahal Haredi Soldiers and the Anti Draft Protests

#1646691
Neville ChaimBerlin
Participant

Avi: Would you like his shul to say a misheberach that the soldiers should come back onto the derech? I do get a kick out of this latest argument that the Gra would hold that it’s assur for frum yidden to learn today. We should start a Shailos U’Teshuvos of Avi K sefer soon. Anyway, you stick by your weird old, Kahanist guns, and people will either love it or hate it, so I have no desire to really argue with you. My concern here is that of Sarah being dishonestly represented as moderate/compassionate due to clever writing style as American MO’s often tend to pull off.

She wrote:
“I think the juxtaposition of the lastest “anti-draft” protests and the tragic deaths of two Nahal Charedi soldiers is stunning and to be sure, disgusting.”
She’s clearly implying a correlation. Any sensible human being can see that one thing has nothing to due with the other. She will, as expected, refuse to say that she’s implying a correlation because that would ruin the disingenuous nature of her point, which is to criticize the frum world and bring up a national tragedy in the same breath and then skirt all responsibility for making the extreme analogy.
She then says:
“acknowledgment that these soldiers died in their stead.”
This is explicitly saying that if charedim served, they would be dying instead (or at least also). Again, she won’t admit this, but she is clearly presenting this as the preferable alternative.
Then:
“at very least, there should be an acknowledgment by the Charedi leadership, the lay people and the yeshiva boys themselves that they belong serving ”
As usual, presenting an extreme statement as thought it’s moderate: “ALL I’m asking, at the very least, is that the Charedim cave on their entire stance and admit that us pro-IDF folks are abjectly right about everyone having a duty to serve.”