Reply To: Can the severity of a sin be learned from the severity of the punishment?

And your constant focus on the feeling of the victim and society,
Are you not aware that there are countless עולמות שנפגעים מחטא
What goes on in this world is but a small part of the picture of what truly takes place when a person sins.

Yes Judaism allows critical thinking. As a matter of fact it demands it.
But thinking to understand. Not to create your own version.

Your question from the gemarah is fundamentally flawed.
It’s trying to figure out which species the Torah wants us to use. So it can’t be a thorn bush
Had the torA outright said use a thorn bush though, you don’t see the gemarahs saying, nah, that can’t be. It hurts to much

The ח”ח is not a proofagainst me.
I agreed there are exceptions. Provided there is a good basis for it.
A פסוק במשלי is about as good of a basis that I can ask for in my book
I was just looking to show that לשה”ר is basically worse than a homely bunch of sins that logic and gut would instinctivly say “of course these are worse than לשה”ר how can you even think otherwise ”

And BTW I never called a gemarahs warped.
I quoted a gemarah
You stated that’s a prime example of warped thinking
To which I responded I sound to have the gemarahs warped, your call, logic