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ubiquitin
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Plus you suggested that the reason a Beulah has no punishment is because it’s so bad one can’t get cleansed so “easily ””

I suggested that as a a possibility. I don’t know the reason. and that is ok.

“Abortion”

I’m confused according to the ranking of punishments, for a JEw to perform an abortion theres no misah, nor kareis nor malkos, theres a fine. Presumably if the woman requests it there isnt even a fine. Just so I understand yo u correctly, are you saying for a JEw to perform an abortion (at the mothers request) is less of an averia than “stealing a pen” ? (I’m not disputing the point I just find it surprising that that is your position and looks like we may have uncovered yet another exception,)

(as an aside, tzoras is a punishment,”
Not in this sense see the Rambam Avos 2:1 for the list that we generally follow, you’ll note tzoras isnt there)

I am genuinely trying to understand your view. I find it fascinating

I still have a few questions.
2 where in my last post that went up the same time as yours .

1) Which is a worse act sacrificing all chidren to moilech, or some, and how do you know?
2) whcih is a worse act hitting someone in a light way (where there is no tashlumin so he gets malkos) or maiming someone (where he pays and deosnt get malkos) . and how do you know?
3) Is a girl who says steal my money but dont rape me, over lifnei iver becasue she is causing her assailant to do a worse aveira? what about a bystander who makes the offer ? ( Ive asked this question a few times, If you asked it I missed the answer)