Ubiq
You seem a bit confused here so let me give you the relevant posts in chronological order as listed here. (you can always go back and check to make sure I’m not leaving out anything important or misrepresenting.
Op.
You are voting for a party that is actively advocating for abortion and tuvya marriages. There is no sugar coating the fact that you are the Hellenist b’zman ha’zeh…
(note, no mention of abortion in extenuating circumstances. Not opening a discussion on the possibility of abortion in Jewish law. Rather a condemnation on voting democrat, specifically due to two of the parties platforms. One of which is abortion rights)
I am the twelfth commenter on this thread. You are the twenty first. I’m not sure which number system has twenty one before twelve, but I never learned that one, so I would consider that you came into this conversation after me.
Then came this
As a response to a comment from r Eliezer
50,000,000 slaughtered babies is far less moral
The stupid policies of CLinton caused the mortgage crisis 10 years ago.
The Republicans prefer school choice.
To which r Eliezer responded
February 19, 2020 6:58 pm at 6:58 pm#1833327REPLY
Reb EliezerParticipant
You are fooling yourself when it comes to abortion. No one does abortion for the sake of it. The rich will travel wherever it is allowed and the poor will endanger themselves.
To which Josef responded
Reb Eliezer, I’m really shocked that you support abortion being legal.
Which engendered your comment that r Eliezers they is in line with the Torah, whereupon I asked where exactly do you have a basis for such an outlandish claim.
Follow it through
Op says democrats are awful because they glorify the right for abortions (which is clearly referring to all abortions not just fetal reduction ET Al)
R E says republicans are worse because they don’t care about anybody
To which mdg says 50,000 abortions (that’s fetal reductions?? 50,000?)are worse than whatever r e is claiming about
republicans
Upon which Josef expressed surprise that r e would support legalizing abortions (clearly, follow along now, the abortions we’ve been discussing, meaning ALL abortions including the majority of them which are just convenience)
To which you said it’s the Torah view
And that’s where I challenged you to provide a source.
The abortion part of this thread clearly was discussing immoral abortion on demand, when you came barreling in claiming that’s the Torah position.
If anyone changed the conversation it was you.