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“the essay says they are silly because it is just a game. But if any hat makes the thinking wearer proud, than the wearer of the mets cap would be proud when they win. And, the makers of the cap want people to think more about the mets, so it is a similar idea to the paragraph above.” thats the point, its this very fact that shows that a person by wearing a mets hat is showing chashivus to something worthless. so we see how good a black hat is, the wearer is saying that he gives chashivus to yarei shamayim and Torah by wearing a black hat. rav miller concludes that people wear what they wish to identify with and that has an automatic impact on how the person feels, so therefore a person should dress like a ben Torah. youre reading in between the lines too much when its a pashute article with a very obvious point.
and its for sure similar to tzis tzis, if you look into the reason why were supposed to wear techeiles as well as what looking at tzis tzis does in general its pashut. not sure what that has to do with anything.
and no its not true. rav avigdor miller was saying that its an automatic thing that happens when the kohen gadol puts on the begadim so its showing us the chashivus of wearing begadim putting on the garb of a ben Torah (as well as tzis tzis).

and i have to disagree with what you said over here as well “Standard dress, is not part of any activity. People who dress a certain way (in a traditional sense) will always wear their outfit, regardless of what the activity is.” . when a choshuve business man is working, hes not going to wear the same clothes as when hes chilling. he has his work clothes, same with a factory worker and with anyone really. a limo driver isnt going to be wearing his fancy tux when hes at home watching tv. people dress according to what theyre doing. when i go to a friends pool i throw on a tshirt and a bathing suit. when i go to play sports or go hiking il also dress differently, the atmosphere and what youre doing 1000% impact how a person dresses. we even see by having bigdei shabbos and yom tov, theres a different feeling when put on that fresh tie and shabbos hat.

” It would mean something if people would think about it. But it is demonstrated that they do not”. and this is something i disagree with wildly. i know for a fact, from both me and my friends that when a person wears that hat and jacket in public it stops them from doing certain things and talking about certain things. it acts as a barrier and ive seen this in my own life, even if you dont talk about it. and if im ever in an area thats not so religious, you better bet theyre thinking about it. a guy whos in some train station in bk and hes the only jew, and hes rocking a bekishe and payos, you dont think hes thinking about what hes wearing? of course he is

and the mannequin example is a poor one, because a mannequin isnt alive, and has nothing to identify with. i have a question, if you see a guy walking around with a shirt with a certain tv show on it, will you assume hes a fan of that tv show?