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“No comment on this?”

no becasue We are still on Dr Zelenko’s study. And I’m not sure how it changes his outcome.

“I do not understand that you appear not to think that person’s mental state can be left on the shelf when considering holistic health in any disease situation.”

It can depression does not lead to worse outcomes among Covid patients. AND even if it did it certainly isnt equivalent to COPD

“COPD may be more intuitively a risk,”
No not intuitvley there is data for that.

“but you cannot overlook the fact that perfectly healthy people have had COVID and have perished has v sholom.”
Absolutely true.

“Age may not be a factor alone, it is the increased chance of developing “conditions” the longer one lives(as is seen in real life) but it is not necessarily a consequence of aging alone.”

Again. Look at Dr. Zelenko’s study Group A was those over 60 period. Regardless of conditions (true many had conditions, but that is not WHY they were given HCQ)

“So did Dr. Zelenko actually have no patients 70 and over.”
No reported.

” If not why not? Do you suggest a conspiracy?(no!)”
I dont know could be he treats a younger clientele than average (This was pointed out on te first thread way before he released his data) could be he chose (intentionaly or not) to ignore some bad outcomes which were more prevalent among the elderly.
I don’t know . anything is possible. It could just be bad luck.
The bottom line, s by saying it helped younger (on average) people than the population is not really useful information. Of course younger people with HCQ did better! younger people without HCQ do better too!

“It means regardless of statistics we are told by Torah to never give up”
while true, what is the shaychus here. Did I say to give up?

” and he had “fewer” deaths,”
Again, his study couldnt show that sadly (even among his younger and healthier than average cohort)

“The point is to go to a doctor and listen to him”
Lol. No that was my point! from the beginning back in April
your point was to find a doctor who would give you HCQ

“Ubi, would you yourself take the triple formula?”
Depends on the circumstance. Probably not, though If I felt desperate I would I’m not opposed to it.