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How about what wallet is used, what belt they wear, what glasses they wear, all accessories. Unfortunately, avira, you’re already judging self expression as rebellious. I think, a lot can be said without words about what one feels about themselves, just through colors, not even coming close to brand names. Stifling has also caused bachurim to feel they cannot safely express themselves. Yes, if being true to yourself is interpreted as wanting to be modern, or being a rebel, perhaps this world needs what you call modern, or rebellious. If yeshivish can only mean black and white, only means what’s taught, with everyone having to fit in a mold to be something they’re not, just for purposes of image, nobody will ever grow into their true potential. Such an attitude that everyone must submit to being robotic, is clearly not the purpose of creation. Just imagine what the world would be like if every tree, flower, animal, even the sky itself, only appeared in black and white.