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“…the disturbing underlying obssession/hyperfocus on the veering of sheltered or careful people from their lifestyle. As if you just can’t untangle yourself. And you can’t let them have their victory…”

You miss the point entirely. Some have had their victory by finding a balanced way of maintaining their lifestyle while simultaneously using the normal advancements of society to improve the lives of themselves and their families in the same way our people have done for thousands of years. Even the most ardent, machmir chareidim don’t live today in the same way our forefather did in the time of the avos/emahos but have carefully selected those elements of modern technology and services that they (with the advice of dass torah) believe are consistent with their views of halacha and their haskafah. I don’t recall seeing any of the rabbonim coming to the Asefas riding a donkey on the NJ turnpike nor do I recall their objecting to using a sound amplification system rather than yelling at the tops of their voices about the evils of the internet etc. As I noted earlier, your entitled to your wrong opinion about trends in adopting technology and economic (versus cultural) integration in the Charedi tzibur as am I except I don’t find your views “creepy”, just a bit parochial.