“I am just urging some conservatism when arguing with historical success”
The opposite is true
Heller was the first time The court interpreted the second amendment as applying to an indivudal.
That is > 200 years after it was written. At the time it was written states had laws regulating the ownership, use and storage of firearms. (Thomas cites some of these in Bruen but dismisses them as being exceptions and irrelevant)
Historically the second amendment was quite regulated (“well regulated” if you will)
This interpretation that it applied to individuals was “long-lost” (thats a quote) and uncovered in the past few decades. See the 1982 SEnate report “THe Right to Keep and Bear arms”
But this is all besides the point. Since it isnt really the “historical success” nor “conservatism” that you support. It’s not like now that I’ve pointed out that Heller was a recent decision in terms of US history you will suddenly change your mind , and say oh forget it lets go back to a more conservative interpretation, don’t argue with “historical success”. becasue that was never your real argument.
it isnt really about history just like it isnt about the constitution it is about, as I said from the get go favoring the individual over the collective
To be clear you might be right, that the indivdual’s rights trumps the collective. But THAT is the point of disagreement.
You talk about traveling between States as if it is some long arduous journey full of obstacles and peril. You don’t need to go to Texas to get guns to Chicago (though if you did I’m not sure how those guns would be noticed) Indiana has very loose gun laws, doesn’t require universal background checks, no waiting period. Gary Indiana is less than an hour away fro Chicago (depending on traffic)
“Re people not listening, a simple answer is…”
I’m not sure if there is a typo. There was no answer to the question there.