Always_Ask_Questions,
“This argument sounds like hutzpa from the side that doesn’t generally serve, whatever good reasons might be for that”
Ergo, is it also chutzpah for a “side” that doesn’t generally learn Torah full time to criticize kollel learners? Also, if chareidi enlistment was desirable to the army, would it not be prudent for them to find out why chareidim do not serve?
“I just read that Netziv put his shabbos clothes to accept a first bottle of wine from EY. that was at the time of early Zionists”
There’s a distinction between Eretz Yisroel itself and the medina that rules portions of E”Y and the Negev.