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“The most obvious would be standardized test scores for secular subjects.”

I guess I misunderstood wha tyou meant by “For everyone proclaiming that Jewish education is “just fine”, ”

I thought you meant in the sense that Avira was using it, that overall Chasidim are doing fine “I don’t see why they have to change, as I’ve been saying – it works.”

The point I am making that keeps getting lost is.
Does it matter if they are successful.

The State requires schools teach math/English to elementary school
Chasidim are not.

That is the gist of the article .

The responses are manifold

One of the most common Reponses is “I don’t see why they have to change, as I’ve been saying – it works.” In other words Who needs math/English (otherwise this doesn’t work as a response)

To which I reply, that is the requirement, if you don’t like it either go to court get them to drop that requirement and/or don’t take government money (the fact that you pay taxes and are net payers) is irrelevant .

THIS is the issue that is being overlooked. I f the law requires schools teach Math/English. should schools be allowed to break the law?
And Does it matter if parents approve (this is waht I meant in my first comment, that Besalel took as a “given” it isnt a given at all, its the crux of the issue ? and how many parents do you need all parents approval? 90 %? how do we know wha t the Parents want. donl;t say they choose to send there. Its not like, well if an Aroni school doesn’t offer enough English, just choose a Zali school, that isnt how it works