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Yserbius123
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@CTLAWYER I wish I can find a better citation, but sifrei halacha state that men and women cannot swim together, regardless of how they’re dressed.


@AviraDeArah
We’ve discussed this ad nauseum. There is a certain population of Jews who consider themselves “Orthodox” that don’t really openly follow the Torah. This has always been the case. This will continue to be the case ad biyas goel b’mheira v’yamaynu. If I would have to guess, a huge percentage of them are Sephardi, since non-frum Sephardim didn’t have a history with Reform and Conservative, so most of them just stuck with “parking the car around the corner on Shabbat” style Judaism. It is a problem that people don’t follow Torah and mitzvos. But that isn’t a Modern Orthodox problem, that’s just a problem problem. MO just happens to appeal to these people more than most other groups. You statistical facts are important, but not really anything of note. Fakhert, it shows that the number of people who consider themselves Orthodox yet don’t try to follow Torah and Mitzvos is shrinking and they have no support nor leadership that encourages their behavior.

Because, like I’ve said, at the end of the day we need to first take the beam out of our own eyes and accept that the current Yeshivish trends are a much greater danger to us than non-frum Jews.