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AviraDeArah
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Moshiach, where does the torah say to have a jewish state in our homeland?

The term homeland is also wrong. It implies we became a nation there; we didn’t, we became a nation when Hashem said we were His people – which was when we received the Torah. We became a nation in the midbar.

Making a state violates the Torah, so do you think Hashem would nake a miracle for it to be created?

There were different schools of thought regarding how to view the state. The satmar rov said that if there were miracles – which he said there weren’t – it wouldn’t prove anything, just as they don’t prove that a navi sheker is true. It would be a maysoh soton.

The brisker rov said that the zionists were successful because after the Holocaust, there was a tremendous ais ratzon. If klal yisroel wanted moshiach, he would have come – instead they wanted a state, so that’s what they got.

And now we’re stuck with it, with no clear way out of the grasp of zionists poisoning the holy land with their chilul Hashem.

Can you think of a bigger chilul Hashem than a state which calls itself jewish not following the Torah? It’s literally the biggest chilul Hashem since maysoh bereshis… something which says it’s jewish while being totally frei.