>>>I left the MO world the day I went for my YU interview and saw posters of model’s hanging in the dorms. I realized you can’t be both a yeshiva and a university.
I’m not sticking up for YU or the MO world but in fairness and accuracy the type of people who hang up pictures of modelsin the dorm are probably not in the YU Yeshiva program anyway. They are probably either in The James Striar of Isaac Bruer program at YU neither of which claim to be a Yeshiva. Those programs justify their existence and lack of religious observance by SOME of their students saying that if we did not offer them this framework they would be in a lot worse environment (James Striar focuses on those who did not grow up frum and try to be mekarav them) Whether they are right or wrong or whether even if they are right, those programs should be located on a separate campus , is a different question but they don’t in essence disprove any validity to YU and MO