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yankel berel
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@ nomesorah
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B] habad hasidim [near]deify their rebbi , more so than any other group or sect in klal Yisrael ever.
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nomesorah
B] This is debatable. But if you change “deify their rebbe” to ‘associate their rebbe with the divine’, Then I agree. This slight wordplay, is a big difference in theology and philosophy.
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B response] The main point you left out – “MORE SO THAN ANY OTHER GROUP IN KLAL YISRAEL”
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-whether the ‘heter’ to pray to their rebbi [given by the rebbi himself],
-whether the rebbi is defined by atsmus umehus [i.e. the essence of God] clothed in a human body [again, defined by their rebbi himself] ,
-whether the rebbi is the joyful bearer of nevua mamash [again – news delivered their rebbi himself]
-whether rebbi is the ‘head’ of the klal ,as spelt in Rosh Bnei Yisrael [RBY], where the whole chiyut and life of every yehudi [not only his hasidim] is totally dependent on the habad rebbi , and if this would stop for one second their life would immediately stop. [again , told to us by their rebbi]
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Whether all of the above [and more] should be categorised as , [1] “deify their rebbe” OR as, [2] ‘associate their rebbe with the divine’, is not that important . As long as we agree on what’s IN the jar , even if we do not agree on the label.
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We can agree then – That The above is COMPLETE ANATHEMA in any other sect or group in klal yisrael .