“The fact that the 1200 people who were nebach murdered wouldn’t agree is #1 they were mainly nonreligious people and I don’t think a Gemara in Baba Basrah really talks to them….”
You can call it apikorsus or whatever….My only point was that secular Israelis have been told for decades that limud torah by the Chareidim offers “protection” to klal yisroel but that mantra has become a very difficult political sell after simchas torah.