Reply To: I Guess I’m Pulling for the “Chabad Media” Now?

“Happy new year got it right.
Chazal and meforshim do NOT contradict the Torah ever. I’ve said that over and over and over again. If you think that they do YOU are learning pshat wrong.”

It sounds like you mean to say New Year got it wrong, then, since he’s the one saying they do contradict the Torah and that he would happily call them out for doing so. Here is what he said:
“I don’t CARE who said that. Including Chazal. Chazal, like the Neviim and Ksuvim, have NO right to contradict the Torah.”

What you’re saying is correct, Philosopher, but that’s not what Happy New Year said. What he said seems to be some kind of quasi Karaite philosophy that even sometimes denies the validity of Nach, but then sometimes accepts Chazal as long as they’re just repeating the pashut pshat of a passuk. It’s a very niche religion he seems to have invented for himself; I wouldn’t recommend joining it if I were you.

“It says b’feresh in the Torah that brothers of Yosef saw that their father died.”
Irrelevant. We don’t bring proofs from straight pasukim pretty much ever. This is the kind of thing I’m talking about. I get the temptation to say “well you’re bringing a rishon? I’ll bring an even better proof, a passuk from the Torah itself!” For better or for worse, that’s not how the Orthodox world works.

“No mefoiresh says that Yacov’s GUF is alive, period.”
The presence of the word guf is irrelevant. If he included it, you would just find other reasons to say it isn’t literal because you’re set on interpreting this the way you want. I’ll look at the sources you guys brought in the other thread if it will make you happy, but my point was never to get involved in this debate on a lomdus level. I’m just informing you that what ARSo, Shmei, myself, and The Artscroll say is the mainstream Orthodox understanding and it’s pretty well-known. You keep talking like none of us had heard of this before Shmei mentioned it, so we must be “parroting” him. Maybe that was the case with YOU, but why is it so hard to accept that some of us had already come across this?

By the way, at no point have I tried to say that your shittah is illegitimate or kefiradik or anything. You’re welcome to your viewpoint. It’s you that is telling multiple people from different communities as well as Artscroll that we’re all definitively wrong, then you say you aren’t claiming to be authoritative.