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@ YB

I am going to respond to your points on behalf of HaKatan (based on things he wrote). He is welcome to correct me if he thinks that I misunderstood or am misrepresenting his position.

You wrote: All your arguments are against the Zionists who were heretics and lived their life against torah.
But that was not the Q.

HaKatan wrote: “Religious Zionists” are of course not what you stated. Rather, as Rav Elchonon wrote, which holds true ever since, the “Religious Zionists” believe in both religion (Torah) and the idolatry of Zionism. They happen to be even more fanatical in their Zionism than are their secular counter-parts, because they worship Zionism “for real”. They literally hold that the “State” and everything about that “State” is holy, a”l.

“The idolatry of Zionism” means here to identify as a nation primarily based on a common ancestry, culture, language, and land. Furthermore, it means being lead by a political body representing it’s entire constituency (especially the majority secular one), hereafter “The State”. This is Nationalism. Being a secular Nationalist is kfira. Being a religious Nationalist and holding that “The State” is Kodesh is A”Z.

So per the above: All Zionism = Jewish Nationalism = Kfira or A”Z

The fact is that common ancestry (being descendants of Avroham, Yitzchok, and Yaacov), language (Lashon HaKadosh), and land (Eretz Yisroel) are not exclusively components of secular Nationalism but are, in fact, crucial components of our Jewish National identity is probably not lost on HaKatan. I think this is why he makes a point of writing in terms of “The State”.

I rather like your mashal of “ripping the shovel out of their hands”. I think it is a good mashal for what is probably the majority position.